ICH!!!!!

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Same debate that I started with :P

"Every tank has this parasite to some extent"

prob so , its something you cant get an answer for , there very well may be set ups that do not have it , how does one tell "exactly" ??


fact is if your fish is showing it visibly then it needs immediate care, be it better water or meds etc.


i havent seen ich in my tanks in years through many different set ups , though im sure it could be there i did things to make sure the fish were healthy enough to never show it. the fact that its visible should be a red alarm right there.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by reefwars

prob so , its something you cant get an answer for , there very well may be set ups that do not have it , how does one tell "exactly" ??


fact is if your fish is showing it visibly then it needs immediate care, be it better water or meds etc.


i havent seen ich in my tanks in years through many different set ups , though im sure it could be there i did things to make sure the fish were healthy enough to never show it. the fact that its visible should be a red alarm right there.

Yah. I think the acclimation was not proper and hence the stress. Because my clown and firefish, no matter what, never got ich from the start of this tank, even now.

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Sorry for the misunderstanding but I didn't say about my fish being put into a hospital tank. I was talking more generally like taking a fish from a 65gallon to a 10 or 20 gallon hospital tank.

And from your post, I think you are not very fond of nanos

There are people, like me, who doesn't have the provision of keeping big tanks (in terms of money and space) and hence nanos are there and they are no big of a difference other than the limited stocking list.

And please don't attack me with the "money" thing because I once had someone attack me with "if you can't get a $50 refractometer, you are in the wrong hobby" because I believe there's more into this hobby than just money and that is dedication. BTW I do have a refrac now :P

this is kinda the opposite of what you said about not wanting to throw the money for a qt....if you believed there was more to it then money you would in fact have no prob ponying up the doh for it???



part of owning a nano tank is limiting your self to livestock, its playing the patience game , a nano idea is supposed to house a smaller version of a large ecosystem , not a large ecosystem crammed into a small nano, this creates alot of problems for less than 20g of water.


just pointing it out the money youve spent on fish and coral so far could have been a qt tank or even 2.


ps.....six lines are evil and its goig to be one of the worst purchases youve ever had .....all mine always have been

they do become too large for your size tank but thats at adult sizes

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Yah. I think the acclimation was not proper and hence the stress. Because my clown and firefish, no matter what, never got ich from the start of this tank, even now.

in my 25g tank i have 1 fish not because of the size.... its not always about the size of the tank... fact is fish graze,hunt,dash and chase and do all sorts of things, i bet there are a dozen more fish i can get in there as long as i choose them appropriately. based on the ecosystem i can provide for them.

when you mix species there has to be that personal space, fish are no different then any other animal and do not do well when they are crammed.


aggression happens....over time territroy gets established..... the weaker of the bunch are at the bottom of the chain and subject to death.....while new comers are stressed instantly.

[mrhasan]

Yah I know. I have this tendency of learning things the hard way and here's an example

I bought the wrasse because my tank had very little movement. The firefish keeps on hiding and when it comes out, only stays at one place while the clown, well its hosting a side of the tank and since sixlines are very active, I got this. I did plan on getting a cherub but they were nowhere to be found in calgary.

BTW I didn't under "this is kinda the opposite of what you said about not wanting to throw the money for a qt....if you believed there was more to it then money you would in fact have no prob ponying up the doh for it???"

[Seth81]

For me it was simply ignorance... I simply did not know that there wasn't an effective reef safe cure for Ich. I have lots of freshwater experience, so when there was Ich present it was no problem to dump in some coppermine. But the moment I saw Ich in my reef tank I was pretty suprised that in 2012 there still is no effective reef safe cure.

I can't believe that people couldn't be bothered to spend $150 on a QT system, but will spend $1000's on fish. I guess part of the problem is that we all want to take home that cool looking fish and put it in our display tanks right away and not in the small QT tank for two weeks.

But I for one will be following QT procedures in the future. I just hope that the Ich in my system will fully dissipate. Any thoughts on if you don't see Ich for 2- 3 months if it will actually be gone? or still be present just waiting for a weak immune system?

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Only "money" is the concern for me :P

I am thinking of starting a quarantine tank. I plan one adding, if possible, only two more fishes but not any time soon. Depending on the scenario, I might even have to go through leaving the tank fishless for 2 months. That would be the hardest part just to keep few fishes since I am limited to a 20 gallon tank.

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Yah I know. I have this tendency of learning things the hard way and here's an example

I bought the wrasse because my tank had very little movement. The firefish keeps on hiding and when it comes out, only stays at one place while the clown, well its hosting a side of the tank and since sixlines are very active, I got this. I did plan on getting a cherub but they were nowhere to be found in calgary.

BTW I didn't under "this is kinda the opposite of what you said about not wanting to throw the money for a qt....if you believed there was more to it then money you would in fact have no prob ponying up the doh for it???"

what i kinda meant was that you spent easily $500 in coral and fish but when it came time to throw for qt you said money is an issue??

no offense and its a common mistake people make

[Seth81]

Originally Posted by reefwars

what i kinda meant was that you spent easily $500 in coral and fish but when it came time to throw for qt you said money is an issue??

no offense and its a common mistake people make

Ha ha... yeah this isn't exactly the hobby for people who are tight with their money!

[mrhasan]

Oh no no no. I have hardly spend $200 for the livestock. :P

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

Oh no no no. I have hardly spend $200 for the livestock. :P

my point exactly lol you mentioned earlier about the refractometer...i remember that thread.....this is the exact same thing over again:P