Feeding Fish Vegetables

[reefwars]

read your fish food ingerdients i bet its mostly vegetables and shrimp:P:P

most of mine are anyways:P

[reefwars]

in my nls pellets bottle in my hand it says:

red and green spinach
pea
broccoli
red pepper
zucchini
tomato
kiwi
apricot
pear
mango
apple
papaya
peach


a frend and me yesterday were reading the ingredients and alot of these have copper traces in them

[Enigma]

Originally Posted by reefwars

read your fish food ingerdients i bet its mostly vegetables and shrimp:P:P

most of mine are anyways:P

I will check.

Originally Posted by fishytime

Ive fed banana (the fruit itself) to my fish before.....most of them took to it....you really have to smoosh it up and make it bite sized tho....Ive never fed veggies

Interesting. Do you think the advantage of the banana is as simple as diet variance, or is there something specific to the banana that is particularly advantageous? I can't eat a whole one . . . they sit in my stomach like rocks (must be all the potassium, maybe?).

[fishytime]

Originally Posted by reefwars

a frend and me yesterday were reading the ingredients and alot of these have copper traces in them

Ive been telling peeps this for years....even got into a heated debate about it here with more than one person.....I think NLS is a great food for freshwater and even a fish only , but I will not feed it to my reef

Originally Posted by Enigma

Interesting. Do you think the advantage of the banana is as simple as diet variance, or is there something specific to the banana that is particularly advantageous? I can't eat a whole one . . . they sit in my stomach like rocks (must be all the potassium, maybe?).

Im assuming that potassium is the reason some feed it.....I fed it as a treat, like you said, just to get some variance in their diet....

[Enigma]

Originally Posted by fishytime

Im assuming that potassium is the reason some feed it.....I fed it as a treat, like you said, just to get some variance in their diet....

I think maybe I'll try it. We always have bananas in the house.

[RD]

Ive been telling peeps this for years....even got into a heated debate about it here with more than one person.....I think NLS is a great food for freshwater and even a fish only , but I will not feed it to my reef

Honestly, for some people ignorance must be bliss.




With regards to copper in food food, this topic comes up from time to time on various forums and is something that apparently many reef hobbyists do not fully understand, anymore than many freshwater shrimp owners.

In small quantities, copper is an essential element to all life forms.


Copper and Aquatic Life


http://www.copper.org/publications/n...er_health.html



Joe Yaiullo, one of the pioneers of reef keeping in the USA, and the curator/co-founder of Atlantis Marine World in NY has been feeding NLS (daily) in his reef tanks for the past 10+ years. You can view his 20,000 gallon reef set up (the largest in NA, and 4th largest in the world) in the link below, where he also mentions feeding New Life Spectrum.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2007/2/aquarium

Joe is one of the world’s most highly regarded Aquarium authorities. He has consulted with many public Aquariums worldwide, and has also presented reef-keeping lectures throughout the United States, Canada, and Europe.


Bob Fenner, who is widely known through his various published works on aquatics, as well as his wetwebmedia website, has stated that New Life Spectrum is a nutritionally complete food, to the point of it being the best food, period. http://wetwebmedia.com/foodsppt1.htm

Bob's bio can be found here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/WWMAdminS...ex/bobfbio.htm

Charles Delbeek M.Sc., senior biologist at the Steinhart Aquarium in San Francisco also feeds NLS at their facility. You can view Mr. Delbeek's bio in the following link.

http://www.jcdaquariumdesign.com/Pages/about_us.html

The gentlemen mentioned above are not only highly respected, very experienced long term reef keepers, they also hold one or more degrees in the various related sciences, and would most certainly never use anything in their systems that even had the potential to harm any type of life form.

Also, none of those individuals have any type of vested interest in New Life.


Last but not least, please keep in mind that almost everything and anything can become toxic at high enough levels, including some vitamins. No nutritionist would recommend completely eliminating vitamin A, B, D, E and K from the diet just because at higher levels these substances can be toxic to a fish, yet this exact type of logic is what's used when some hobbyists discuss essential trace elements such as copper.

Happy fishkeeping.

[Enigma]

Originally Posted by reefwars

a frend and me yesterday were reading the ingredients and alot of these have copper traces in them

There are traces of copper in most things . . . most just don't list it. It probably won't be something that is added on purpose, but rather, that is naturally occurring.

Very small trace amounts are perfectly safe.

Look at the list of minerals for this very popular aquarium product:
http://www.aquavitro.com/products/fuel.html

I'm impressed that they have the gonads to actually list it in there.

Edit: Here's an interesting little article on copper concentrations in the ocean: http://www.chemet.com/file.asp?F=Cop...PDF&C=articles