Cannot get rid of cyano!

[fishytime]

Originally Posted by Nate

You win.... Good luck with your cyano ....

+1...... Obviously Marko knows something that 99% of everyone else in the hobby doesn't

[beefORchicken]

cyano uses nitrogen fixation ->grows without nitrates and uses nitrogen gas in the air, but it still needs a source of phosphate.
large W/Cs did nothing to cyano for me
extra GFO worked, but it took a long time and was a gradual change with less growing back each time it was removed
(GFO also removes silicates which can contribute to cyano)

[MarkoD]

Originally Posted by fishytime

+1...... Obviously Marko knows something that 99% of everyone else in the hobby doesn't

no its that i tried all the obvious things and was looking for the one person that knows something that 99% of us dont know

and last time i had a problem with my clams being closed up, how was a water change suppose to help me resolve the problem of my cleaner wrasse nipping on the clams?

[Nate]

Originally Posted by MarkoD

no its that i tried all the obvious things and was looking for the one person that knows something that 99% of us dont know

you didn't try ROUTINE water changes... Tried a couple for the first time in 14 months...

[Cal_stir]

Originally Posted by Nate

you didn't try ROUTINE water changes... Tried a couple for the first time in 14 months...

I do ROUTINE water changes, so why didn't it fix my cyano problem?

[Proteus]

Routine water changes never fixed mine but it did import better quality water while I fixed the problems

[Cal_stir]

Exactly, I'm just trying to make a point, I do routine WC, vacuum, socks, maint, don't overfeed, maintain good water params, but sometimes when cyano gets the chance to rear its ugly head, the best maintenance in the world can't correct it.
I battled it for over a month, then I chemicleaned it and now it's gone, I'm back to my regular routine(that worked for years) and no sign of cyano, tank is happy and I'm happy.
So to say that Marcos problem is because he doesn't do routine water changes is a farce, and to say that doing routine wc will clear it up in a few weeks is a greater farce.

[Nate]

Originally Posted by Cal_stir

Exactly, I'm just trying to make a point, I do routine WC, vacuum, socks, maint, don't overfeed, maintain good water params, but sometimes when cyano gets the chance to rear its ugly head, the best maintenance in the world can't correct it.
I battled it for over a month, then I chemicleaned it and now it's gone, I'm back to my regular routine(that worked for years) and no sign of cyano, tank is happy and I'm happy.
So to say that Marcos problem is because he doesn't do routine water changes is a farce, and to say that doing routine wc will clear it up in a few weeks is a greater farce.

Ok Im wrong nuke it with the chemiclean!

You did 4 20 % water changes after you did the chemiclean to get your skimmer back in order Cal. Willing to bet that helped whatever parameter was out when you had it. Maybe prevented it from coming back? No?

[Nate]

Originally Posted by Cal_stir

I do ROUTINE water changes, so why didn't it fix my cyano problem?

I dont know much about your system... Wish I could help you. You said it happened after "acans dies from a disease?" I am glad you keep to regular water changes, and wish I could help you further. but with so little information, you are asking a question that I could not possibly give you an answer to. You have set me up to fail with this question. Its like me asking you why is my Duck Toller barking right now. Could be a bird, could be the cat, could be that I'm paying attention to a thread that I've wasted too much time on today...

Furthermore, I believe you are not even currently battling cyano?

Again, I would like to go on record as not being against the chemiclean. I have used it as well. In fact I bet that I've purchased more than anyone else on the board (humorous). I just always find that the guys that are very strongly "anti water change" are often having tank crashes or issues that would likely have been solved with routine water changes.

I wish marko the best of luck in the future and who knows, perhaps he can develop a method of no-work reefkeeping that can put me out of a job?

[Cal_stir]

No I am not battling cyano right now, I won my battle with chemiclean and I was sharing my experience with Marco so he could make an informed decision about using chemiclean and or other maintenance to help in his battle with cyano, you are just throwing him under the bus for not doing routine water changes, I know people who don't do routine water changes and have successful reef tanks.