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Old 03-01-2012, 04:48 PM
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Why would anyone NOT do regular water changes??
Ohhh the humanity! how long could you breathe the same air if you were trapped in a box?
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I stoped for a while but found with a 45 gallon every two weeks I had less worry and less dosing. It's a hour of my time. Well worth the reward
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Ohhh the humanity! how long could you breathe the same air if you were trapped in a box?


If there is biological reactions inside that box that are transforming carbon dioxide back to oxygen with high efficiency you could be stuck in there for an extended period of time.
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What would you rather drink, fresh clean water or water that has been sitting for 6 months?

Just because you can limp a tank along (and possibly do just fine for a while) without waterchanges .. the best practises approach include water changes.

Very few long term tanks exist without a water change strategy in place.
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What would you rather drink, fresh clean water or water that has been sitting for 6 months?

Just because you can limp a tank along (and possibly do just fine for a while) without waterchanges .. the best practises approach include water changes.

Very few long term tanks exist without a water change strategy in place.
I would rather drink beer

But yes, my assertion is, that under the right circumstances and with the right preparation it is viable to limit/suspend water changes. Not everbody keeps on small clown in a 50 gallon tank or has a protein skimmer rated for a much larger tank like I do though.

my main contention is the people who just aren't willing to bend and see that there are many things you can do to make you system more enclosed and self sufficient and thus you can avoid your bi-weekly regiment of a 20 percent water changes...
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what about calcium? alkalinity? a tank without water change need to be dosed for these and trace elements.

I sometimes go a month and half without water change and my corals were doing fantastic but I dose every day and I feed my coral with vitamines and amino acids.
Ya you would think wc would be easier to do then constent dosing iv considered no w/c but after a few weeks I get sick of daily dosing would much rather mix up some water once a week to biweekly and call her done lol
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Dosing for me is taken care of by my dosing pumps, all non-conservative elements are dosed/ measured/ adjusted, my nitrates and phosphates are 0 and 0.03ppm and I have ATO with RODI. Corals grow great, colors are solid. Question... do you think I am doing regular water changes? Do you think I need to do regular water changes? Why/why not?


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Dosing for me is taken care of by my dosing pumps, all non-conservative elements are dosed/ measured/ adjusted, my nitrates and phosphates are 0 and 0.03ppm and I have ATO with RODI. Corals grow great, colors are solid. Question... do you think I am doing regular water changes? Do you think I need to do regular water changes? Why/why not?


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All u hear is money money and more money lol i run a minimal nano setup so I have to do w/c just to save time and money on dosing n chems. Honestly though my next setup is going to have all the gear to enable me to do less w/c with less dosing hassle
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All u hear is money money and more money lol i run a minimal nano setup so I have to do w/c just to save time and money on dosing n chems. Honestly though my next setup is going to have all the gear to enable me to do less w/c with less dosing hassle
My hobby pays for itself... Wanna buy some corals I run 4 isolated systems totaling >400g twv... daily decrease of Ca is 20ppm and dKh is 1.5 degrees. Water changes won't keep up with my dosing requirements. I started out small and grew slowly: like 22 years of growing, so money spending has been spread out and lately has been subsidized. My mom runs a nano and despite having unlimited access to all supplements and test kits, I tell her a 10% weekly water change will take care of all of her needs with, by FAR, the least amount of work. Wish it was the same for me .


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My hobby pays for itself... Wanna buy some corals I run 4 isolated systems totaling >400g twv... daily decrease of Ca is 20ppm and dKh is 1.5 degrees. Water changes won't keep up with my dosing requirements. I started out small and grew slowly: like 22 years of growing, so money spending has been spread out and lately has been subsidized. My mom runs a nano and despite having unlimited access to all supplements and test kits, I tell her a 10% weekly water change will take care of all of her needs with, by FAR, the least amount of work. Wish it was the same for me .


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Lol i can see that haha even with weekly w/c by the next one u would have no calc or alk and i assume other trace elements would be quite low or non existent sounds like a nightmare lol my next tank is going to be max 100g DT will be 60g prob could still get away with just w/c in my case
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