I'm an Idiot

[kien]

Originally Posted by sully08

I thought ich can only be spread through fish, not transfered any other way,

Ich has a stage in its life cycle where it is free floating in the water. It is at this stage where Ich can be found virtually anywhere there is water.

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by kien

Ich has a stage in its life cycle where it is free floating in the water. It is at this stage where Ich can be found virtually anywhere there is water.

+1

[MarkoD]

The reason your fish has ich is because it's stressed for some reason.

If you have a tank full of healthy fish and dumped a gallon of ich infested water, nothing would happen.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by MarkoD

The reason your fish has ich is because it's stressed for some reason.

If you have a tank full of healthy fish and dumped a gallon of ich infested water, nothing would happen.

You just made that up.....

[MarkoD]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

You just made that up.....

Ich is all over the place in the ocean. If it was to be killing healthy fish, they'd all be dead

Just like healthy people with normal immune systems don't die from the common cold

[Aquattro]

Fish in the ocean have a vast area in which to swim, not contained in a small box with a pathogen population explosion..
Good theory, as far as theories go, but unless you have something to back that up, you made it up...

[MarkoD]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Fish in the ocean have a vast area in which to swim, not contained in a small box with a pathogen population explosion..
Good theory, as far as theories go, but unless you have something to back that up, you made it up...

I made it up based on personal experience. And I'm not the only one that has this opinion.

If ich attacks healthy non stressed fish, then wouldn't all fish in a tank be effected at the same time?

[marie]

What exactly do you think ich is
Ich IS a parasite......like fleas. Fleas are everywhere too but not every dog has fleas.
My dogs (and house)do not have fleas but if I found a carpet at the second hand store and brought it home without cleaning it properly there is a chance my dog will get fleas.

Ich is NOT a virus, it has no similarities to the common cold what so ever

Originally Posted by MarkoD

Ich is all over the place in the ocean. If it was to be killing healthy fish, they'd all be dead

Just like healthy people with normal immune systems don't die from the common cold

[Aquattro]

Think of it this way. Marko lives on the planet. Venomous snakes live on the planet. Marko can probably avoid these snakes for most of his life, just going about his business. But...should we lock Marko in the bathroom, and then dump a bucket of venomous snakes in with him, well, Marko's gonna be dead.

[daniella3d]

wow...can't beleive I am reading this!

In the ocean the ick kyst are getting dispersed all over the currents and rarely they will be able to remain on a fish for very long because they get wiped away as soon as they detatch from the fish so not large scale infection can take place. However in the aquarium where the fish are so confined it is very easy for the ick to find the same fish over and over again until that poor fish is covered.

So yeah...if you dumped a bucket full of ick into a tank you would infect all of the fish in there. Has nothing to do with healthy or not healthy fish...it is a parasite and it will parasite.

Also you say you saw fish survive ick without treatment...fine....except have you ever seen fish survive marine velvet without treatment? now they are both parasites and the only reason that some fish manage to fight off ick is that it is not as nasty parasites. It's not only due to the fish fighting it off, it also has to do with the fact that ick is not such a deadly parasite as some others. If your theory about healthy fish fighting off disease would be true, then quite a bit of fish would survive velvet infestation, but that's simply not true. I guess that according to your theory, it means that a lot of fish are not heatly or they would not need medication to fight off marine velvet.

Originally Posted by MarkoD

Ich is all over the place in the ocean. If it was to be killing healthy fish, they'd all be dead

Just like healthy people with normal immune systems don't die from the common cold