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Old 01-30-2012, 01:52 PM
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Is your concern with smart meters really the transmission of wireless signals?
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:09 PM
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I'll happily step up to our government, but certainly not over smart meters. The sooner one is installed at my home, the better. I'll be able to set up a solar array & wind generator, get a plug & play grid tie inverter that can be installed without a permit, & start sending power back to the grid. Well maybe not enough to sell, but it will slow down the meter on a good day.
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What exactly is the objection with Smart Meters anyway? I understand why the grow-opers don't like them. But if it gives me more info on my own usage, and allows me to better manage it, I don't see that as a bad thing.
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I also don't see any reason to say no. It's the way of the future!
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In all fairness the meters belong to BC Hydro, not us. We contract them to supply us with electricity if we don't like the equipment they use then cancel the contract
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The issue of Smart Meters is that they needlessly emit a lot of RF radiation which kills plants and drives away the birds, bats and the bees. Also anyone with an RF reader can tell when someone is home so they know when to rob you blind.

They will drive anyone nuts who has extreme electrical/magnetic sensitivity. If going under high voltage lines bothers you a smart meter will drive you nuts.

There is also other technology that can be used to get the info... ethernet over the neutral line. Similar to X10 control systems.

The company(Corix) that does the smart meter installs are not using licensed electricians. There is already cases of houses burning down due to an improper install of a smart meter.

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They will drive anyone nuts who has extreme electrical/magnetic sensitivity. If going under high voltage lines bothers you a smart meter will drive you nuts.
Hmmm, that sounds pretty bad!! How can that be?? What is it in these Smart Meters that creates so much electrical/magnetic sensitivity? Wouldn't they have to consume a lot of energy, too, to be worse than high voltage power lines? Sounds pretty dangerous to me.

And what does that make cell phones, if I understand that chart in the next post? Good thing some of us have really thick skulls or our brains would be all mush!!
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Also anyone with an RF reader can tell when someone is home so they know when to rob you blind.

The company(Corix) that does the smart meter installs are not using licensed electricians. There is already cases of houses burning down due to an improper install of a smart meter.
How exactly does someone with an RF meter know when you're home. The average thief is unlikely to bother with something like an RF reader anyhow. All they need to do is watch your house & see how you come & go. I'd wager 90% of homes these days are unoccupied during a working day, kids are in school, both parents working to make the mortgage. A professional thief has many other ways of scoping out your home. Only had one break-in incident at my house so far & that was a crackhead who tried unsuccessfully to break my car window in the carport late in the evening. Pretty unlikely that a drug addict looking for quick cash is going to use an RF device either. They're just going to smash & grab whatever is close when they're freaking. Could be your car, could be your house. Smart meter isn't going to influence that scenario whatsoever. Fewer grow ops will probably also mean fewer crackheads.

You don't need to be a licensed electrian to install an electrical meter anyhow. Have you ever seen a meter removed from it's socket? It's as easy as replacing a light bulb once the lead seal (tamper indicator wire) is broken & the ring collar is opened.
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The issue of Smart Meters is that they needlessly emit a lot of RF radiation which kills plants and drives away the birds, bats and the bees.
Has anyone seriously looked at one of those spectrum charts from the FCC or Industry Canada lately? God, every last slice of wireless spectrum is full of RF transmitting to all our homes from space and terrestrial transmitters! I'd be more worried about the cell phone tower down the street (which I'm not) or an Al-Jazeera TV satellite than smart meters!

This is from 2003: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/p...3-allochrt.pdf

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Also anyone with an RF reader can tell when someone is home so they know when to rob you blind.
Because it's much easier to do this than scope out your house for 10 minutes to see if anyone is home or not? And besides, all of us reefers will have no problem if this is true since all our halide's and pumps will surely make the thieves think someone is home!

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They will drive anyone nuts who has extreme electrical/magnetic sensitivity. If going under high voltage lines bothers you a smart meter will drive you nuts.
That's why these people can move out into the boonies, or even: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...dio_Quiet_Zone

(Ok, a little harsh. But these people have bigger worries right now, like Wi-fi and Cell phones which are MUCH stronger signals).

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There is also other technology that can be used to get the info... ethernet over the neutral line. Similar to X10 control systems.
Ya, but Hydro chose the cheaper wireless method instead. Otherwise all the transformers on the grid would need upgrading to allow the communication to pass through. Much like Shaw/Rogers had to do back in the early 2000's to allow two way communication on their cable network.

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The company(Corix) that does the smart meter installs are not using licensed electricians. There is already cases of houses burning down due to an improper install of a smart meter.
Perfect, save some more $$! I would assume they are well trained individuals otherwise Worksafe BC wouldn't be letting them do the work. I'd be more concerned about all the home owners of the province installing their own power outlets or changing out light switches.
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