Help on treating ich

[Sumfingwong]

Originally Posted by nanomano

I always listen to what she says hahaha. Also once i qt my fish a few weeks down the road i dump a capfull of herbtana in the dt once in a while just to play it safe. Usually a day or two before a water change so there isnt excess stuff in the water. I don't kniw if I'm right or wrong in doing so but i only had the one outbreak, and it was in my dt so that's why I do that. Cause I'm sure there is still ich in my tank and i like to try to keep it at bay.

As of yesterday, I turned off my skimmer, and treating the tank with Herbtana

Originally Posted by MarkoD

Feed your fish and make sure they're not stressed (due to poor water conditions). And they'll fight it off themselves

I dipped the krill and brine with Seachem garlic guard, every other fish except the puffers ate. Right now, it looks like its affecting the puffers the most.

[MarkoD]

Maybe test your water and try and figure out what's stressing the fish. Do a water change as well maybe.

[Sumfingwong]

Originally Posted by MarkoD

Maybe test your water and try and figure out what's stressing the fish. Do a water change as well maybe.

I'll run tests tonight. Last I checked over the long weekend:

ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 0
Phosphate: 0

pH: 8.2 to 8.4 (last night)

I recently dosed the tank, would like to not do a WC unless I have to. I want to see if Herbtana works or not.

[Coralgurl]

I would research how each of your fish will respond to copper if you decide to use this method. Some fish can not handle it and it will kill them. I had an outbreak a few months ago, set up a hospital tank and stressed the fish moving them over, lost my 2 clowns within hours. Out of 7 fish that went into the hospital, 2 made it back in the DT, 1 ended up with a fungus and died within a week. I made the decision not to qt anymore fish and slowly restocked my tank. One of the last fish I added came with ich. I have been adding selcon and garlic to their food and they are all fine. I panicked when I realized the fish had it again, there's one fish that still has visible signs of a couple of spots, otherwise the others are fine, no flashing.

Good luck, I hope they all pull through regardless of what you decide.

[globaldesigns]

Just feed properly and make sure the environment is in good shape with proper parameters. Fish can survive ICH, as long as they are healthy.

Daniella knows her stuff when it comes to quaranting, so if you choose this method, listen to her advise.

I myself am a believer that you don't need to quarantine, but just my choice, and I haven't seen ICH in my tank for over 3 years. I think, the purchasing of the fish, stresses them, quarantining stresses them... Catching them from the DT stresses them, so if they have ICH and may be weak, why make it worse by stressing them more?

[lockrookie]

ive used a product called rid ich that is reef safe ..did wonders for me (as long as you follow the instructions) i under dosed the first time. havent had it since

[Sumfingwong]

Originally Posted by Coralgurl

I would research how each of your fish will respond to copper if you decide to use this method. Some fish can not handle it and it will kill them. I had an outbreak a few months ago, set up a hospital tank and stressed the fish moving them over, lost my 2 clowns within hours. Out of 7 fish that went into the hospital, 2 made it back in the DT, 1 ended up with a fungus and died within a week. I made the decision not to qt anymore fish and slowly restocked my tank. One of the last fish I added came with ich. I have been adding selcon and garlic to their food and they are all fine. I panicked when I realized the fish had it again, there's one fish that still has visible signs of a couple of spots, otherwise the others are fine, no flashing.

Good luck, I hope they all pull through regardless of what you decide.

Thanks Coralgurl, I hope they pull through as well. I read on some puffer forums cupramine works pretty well. However, I dont want to treat this in my DT. I will try the Herbtana and UV for now.

Originally Posted by globaldesigns

Just feed properly and make sure the environment is in good shape with proper parameters. Fish can survive ICH, as long as they are healthy.

Daniella knows her stuff when it comes to quaranting, so if you choose this method, listen to her advise.

I myself am a believer that you don't need to quarantine, but just my choice, and I haven't seen ICH in my tank for over 3 years. I think, the purchasing of the fish, stresses them, quarantining stresses them... Catching them from the DT stresses them, so if they have ICH and may be weak, why make it worse by stressing them more?

I agree, thats why I am trying to treat the DT with Herbtana, and I just picked up a submersible 13W UV sterilizer from Golds. I wanted to grab something quick, and I saw a video on youtube with someone using a 9W on his 120 with good results.

As for my tank, the skimmer is off at the moment while i treat the tank, I also took out a bag of carbon and turned off the pump feeding the phosban reactor (carbon and GFO)

The first night, the puffers was excited to eat, the second night (last night) they didnt pay attention to the food I put in (I used garlic guard yesterday). I will see what happens today.


I will keep everybody updated on the progress. I hope they pull through as well.

Originally Posted by lockrookie

ive used a product called rid ich that is reef safe ..did wonders for me (as long as you follow the instructions) i under dosed the first time. havent had it since

Hey lockrookie, where did you get this product? I will stick with Herbtana for now. If by the end of the treatment doesnt work, I will do a big waterchange and try another reefsafe approach

[naesco]

Originally Posted by Sumfingwong

As of yesterday, I turned off my skimmer, and treating the tank with Herbtana




I dipped the krill and brine with Seachem garlic guard, every other fish except the puffers ate. Right now, it looks like its affecting the puffers the most.

Dipping is not going to do it. You need to soak dry food in garlic extract or Garlic Extreme (I do not know about garlic guard). You need to feed very often and only garlic soaked foods.
The idea is to get as much garlic in the fish as possible.
Don't know about Herbtana. What are the listed ingredients?

[Sumfingwong]

Originally Posted by naesco

Dipping is not going to do it. You need to soak dry food in garlic extract or Garlic Extreme (I do not know about garlic guard). You need to feed very often and only garlic soaked foods.
The idea is to get as much garlic in the fish as possible.
Don't know about Herbtana. What are the listed ingredients?

Sorry, I worded it wrong.. I soaked the food into Seachem Garlic Guard.

I do have some good news. The dogface who looked the worst yesterday looks a lot better, he ate some krill today. The only one not eating is the porcupine puffer. I am hoping he will come around tomorrow, he is active though, he keeps to the back left corner of the tank surfing the glass.

As for herbtana's ingredients, I will have to check later and get back to you.

I do have a question. the fox face looks like he has this white see through slimy thing hanging off of the dorsal fin. It also looks like it has a white dot on the slimy substance. After that, I saw some of this slimy see through stuff in the water column, so I took a net and scooped it out. What is this stuff? a by product of ich?

[Gripenfelter]

If you have Selcon I would soak the food in that too.