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			 Looking for a skimmer under $400 for a 180 gallon. Out of the following, whats the better skimmer? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	- Eshopps psk200 - Skimmz sm161 - Vertex in-250 - Bubble Magnus nac7 cone Currently running a vertex in-100 on my 70, its ok, but I'm on my second pump, and find it needs tweeking all the time. Thanks  | 
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			 My vote would be the BM 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 Have you thought about SWC? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	I think you could get a SWC Xtreme 180 cone for around $400. I bought a 160 recently and love it. Really quiet and seems to work really nice.  | 
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			 Watch out for the pump on the SWC 180...do some research 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	Apparently there's a problem with restarts and you may need a needle-wheel mod Good reviews on the Skimz  | 
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			 Hated my SWC.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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 There is threads on Reef Central about the skimz being hard to adjust and also about some other problems.  | 
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 Like I stated, do some research as the info is out there Last edited by gregzz4; 12-08-2011 at 12:33 AM.  | 
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			 I have SWC 120 (Atman pump) and 180 (Sicce pump), and they both start up no problem.  I put the Red Devil needlewheel impeller in the Sicce as soon as I bought it.  I'm not familiar with the BM or the Eshopps.  I would pick the Skimz over the Vertex, but I think an SWC is a better bang for the buck.  Compare the air input and power usage when you compare skimmers. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 I have a SWC 200 that uses the same sicce pump as the 180. I had a ceramic pump shaft fail on me after 10 months but SWC sent me a new right away and no problems since. Mine always restarts without any issues. SWC skimmer bodies have no seams and seem to be overall well made. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 I would choose either the BM or the vertex...... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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	260g mixed reef, 105g sump, water blaster 7000 return, Bubble King SM 300 skimmer, Aqua Controller Jr, 4 radions, 3 Tunze 6055s,1 tunze 6065, 2 Vortech MP40s, Vortech MP20, Tunze ATO, GHL SA2 doser, 2 TLF reactors (1 carbon, 1 rowa). http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50034 . Tank Video here http://www.vimeo.com/2304609 and here http://www.vimeo.com/16591694  | 
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