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Old 05-25-2011, 01:06 PM
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Statistically, as winner of the President cup, they are more likely to win than any other seed (if the statistics below are accurate).

http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2011/0...rophy-curse-2/

"Since 93/94, the President Cup winner won more cups than any other seed. They lost less in Round one than any other seed. They lost less in Round 2 than any other seed. They went to at least the 3rd round more than any other seed (11 times)."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...act-or-fiction

"In the 27 seasons starting with 1981-82, of the teams that led the NHL in points during the regular season:
12 have gone all the way to the Stanley Cup finals (45 percent).
Three-quarters of those teams have won the cup (9 of 12)
19 have made it to at least the Conference finals (70 percent)
Only four have been eliminated in the first round (15 percent)
Conclusion: There is no Presidents' Trophy curse. If history is any guide, the team that leads the NHL in regular season points is four to five times more likely than any other team in the playoffs to make it into the Stanley Cup finals, and seven to eight times more likely to win the Cup."
I think you missed my point. While those are very nice stats but my point was concluding a win based on Olympic games location as a result of previous coincidences is like concluding the 4th coin will land on heads as a result of 3 previous coins landing on heads. I would agree there is no presidents curse as the top team in the league should go far, pretty simple. In addition I don't buy into other curses and so called streaks which seem to be ever so popular in the sports world these days.
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Old 05-12-2011, 05:22 AM
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It's only an achievment if you can put together 16 wins in the playoffs. What a team does in the regular season is irrelevant unless they can back it up in the playoffs. You can have the best record in the regular season and look nothing more than average in the playoffs. Winning the Presidents trophy is usually a death sentence in the playoffs. If the only one contributing to the offence is Kesler the Canucks are doomed to be runner up's, no matter what Luongo is like. Chicago and Nashville have made the Canucks look very ordinary and very beatable. Whether is San Jose or Detroit I wouldn't be betting the farm on them going to the finals unless there is some dramatic improvement from the other players. I am hoping for a Boston/Vancouver final as most of my family are die-hard Canuck fans and being a Bruin's fan I am really hoping for a good final but I think the Bruins will roll over the Canucks if they meet for the cup.
You can say that about each of the teams in the playoffs. Montreal almost got rid of the B's as well, and Detroit/SJ both have had huge problems in their own ways. Tampa is the team I'd be most worried about and even then it's the same deal with the stars being inconsistent too. Honestly each of the final 5 times at the moment has under performing top liners for various reasons. I don't think people gave Nashville nor Chicago enough credit. Rinne is one of the other 2 Vezina candidates for good reason, that whole team plays its system to a T. It is just Lemaire-esque boring!
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You can say that about each of the teams in the playoffs.
I think I did.
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