MP10 ES Vs Tunze 6055...Decisions Decisions

[abcha0s]

If you are concerned about noise, there is no decision to make. Vortechs are very loud compared to Tunze. Those who say otherwise can't here them because of the other loud pumps they own.

I own both Tunzes and Vortechs. Each has different pros and cons. The biggest benefit to Vortech is it's small in tank foot print. I also like the Vortech pump profiles but you really need more than one to take advantage of the more interesting modes.

I wouldn't recommend running only a single MP10. It helps to have multiple sources of flow.

Consider that with the MP10, you would need some kind of expansion module to control the pump with your controller. Of course you can run it independently, but if you already own a controller, and you buy an MP10, I am certain you will be shopping for the Vortech module in the near future.

Ultimately, both are good pumps. You really can't go wrong - unless noise is a problem for you, in which case the decision is simple.

- Brad

[Palmer]

Originally Posted by abcha0s

If you are concerned about noise, there is no decision to make. Vortechs are very loud compared to Tunze. Those who say otherwise can't here them because of the other loud pumps they own.

I don't own tunze pumps so cant comment other than that my tank is basically quiet and I have an MP40Wes. If the occasional hum of the external motor which I still find quiet is an annoyance to some then I can see not getting one. I actually like the sound because it reminds me of what its doing in the tank ... lol

In a 33 G tank an MP10W is going to create turbulance all over the tank in my opinion regardless of where the flow is initially directed from.

[Madreefer]

You say that you might be upgrading to a bigger tank so if you got a MP10 you would most likely be upgrading to a MP40 as well. I have the MP40's. I started out with just one and thought it was a really nice powerhead. Since I got a second pump I am really impressed with all of the different wave patterns and different functions that 2 together have. IMHO it's best to have two. I'm with Bluetang<3 on the service. It's a real pain in the ass for Canadian customers to get any service. The only way I got any help was to get on RC and start a rant on Ecotechs thread. Yes they are loud but that can be fixed but it will void your warranty. I have a couple of sets of bearings ordered so as soon as they arrive my warranty will be shot. You take your chances with the Vortech but the functions are really cool.

[toxic111]

I have the same size tank as you with an old style (non es) MP10. Great flow. if you are after a decent wave you won't get it with a single one. the best I ever got was a 3/4" wave with the PH about 2" down in the water (from the top of the tank that is)

I leave mine on reef crest with speed set on max.. works great that way.

[Slick Fork]

Originally Posted by toxic111

I have the same size tank as you with an old style (non es) MP10. Great flow. if you are after a decent wave you won't get it with a single one. the best I ever got was a 3/4" wave with the PH about 2" down in the water (from the top of the tank that is)

I leave mine on reef crest with speed set on max.. works great that way.

A wave would be nice, but I'll be really happy with a nice chaotic kind of flow to keep everything mixed up. I sort of wonder if this tank is too small for the Tunze Nano streams to really shine. I think I have a fair amount of stale water with the two existing pumps.

Do you have any other flow in the tank? Deadspots? What's your take on the noise issue?

Cheers

[Palmer]

Here's a vid of the MP10W on a 37 G aquarium. The person that made the vid cycled through the different modes to show the sound for each. After looking at this it seems like the Reef crest mode which i use on the 40 is the least oppressive lol... But at least this gives you an idea of what it sounds like


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cI_BG2sUZw


Here's a pretty nice wave made on a 36" 30 G tank..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3RYioaSFvI

[viperfish]

I have a 6055 in my RSM and MP40 in my 150 SPS tank, IMO you can't beat the build quality of Tunze. The option of choosing the direction of flow is definitely a plus for the Tunze. I do like my MP40 and feature wise it's no different than the MP10. My MP40 does a good Job but a couple of larger Tunzes with a controller would be just as good. I haven't had my MP40 for that long so I can't speak for longevity but I do know it's damn near impossible to kill a Tunze. I guess my point is that MP10, MP40, and MP60 have become a bit of a status thing in this hobby and IMO the equally capable Tunze PH's don't get enough credit.

[Slick Fork]

Originally Posted by medhatreefguy

I have a 6055 in my RSM and MP40 in my 150 SPS tank, IMO you can't beat the build quality of Tunze. The option of choosing the direction of flow is definitely a plus for the Tunze. I do like my MP40 and feature wise it's no different than the MP10. My MP40 does a good Job but a couple of larger Tunzes with a controller would be just as good. I haven't had my MP40 for that long so I can't speak for longevity but I do know it's damn near impossible to kill a Tunze. I guess my point is that MP10, MP40, and MP60 have become a bit of a status thing in this hobby and IMO the equally capable Tunze PH's don't get enough credit.

No disagreement on the quality of the Tunze's. My only real complaint is that I "think" that the Tunze might have too much of a concentrated stream of water. Maybe swapping the 6045 out for a second 6055 and setting them up to complement each other would be the fix I'm looking for to get that randomized chaotic flow in the tank...

It'd be nice if stores would actually set-up and showcase the products they sell so people wouldn't be stuck buying blind. I'd love to Hear one in action!

[Slick Fork]

Originally Posted by Palmer

Here's a vid of the MP10W on a 37 G aquarium. The person that made the vid cycled through the different modes to show the sound for each. After looking at this it seems like the Reef crest mode which i use on the 40 is the least oppressive lol... But at least this gives you an idea of what it sounds like


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cI_BG2sUZw


Here's a pretty nice wave made on a 36" 30 G tank..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3RYioaSFvI

The video's good for hearing what it sounds like... the sound is not unlike the wavebox I had on the old tank. The tricky part is how to set the volume on the computer speakers.

[phi delt reefer]

new nanostream - 6095; might be something to look into;

http://glassbox-design.com/2011/tunze-nanostream-6095/