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Old 12-05-2010, 03:41 AM
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thanks guys, well lets be honest its a very expensive hobby and if you have help its not that bad, ive def helped alot of people get started and i know they are all very happy i did so. i myself need answers alot and i have alot of saltwater friends in edmonton who help me if i have any problems so i would like to return the favor. if i dont have the answers i can at least point them in the right direction

i agree its completely different to ask questions in person and alot of people would feel better asking the questions to someone not trying to sell them stuff and alot of people feel " dumb" when they have new questions when it shouldnt be like that at all cheers i hope to help alot of reefers
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Old 12-05-2010, 04:07 AM
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Thanks Denny. I used to tell people to buy rubbernaid containers for sumps when I worked at an LFS cause I just couldn't bring myself to sell a $200 sump. I would rather see them spend $ on livestock than fancy stuff that's not nessesarily "needed". I bought most of my stuff used and it has saved so much $.
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Old 12-05-2010, 04:22 AM
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Thanks Denny. I used to tell people to buy rubbernaid containers for sumps when I worked at an LFS cause I just couldn't bring myself to sell a $200 sump. I would rather see them spend $ on livestock than fancy stuff that's not nessesarily "needed". I bought most of my stuff used and it has saved so much $.


My thoughts exactly dez, it seems like alot of new people are afraid to ask questions and I'm also surprised at how many people have tanks and are constantly battling problems. Truth be told this hobby can be extremely simple or just like rocket science ... It's what we make it

This is such a beautiful hobby and I really want all people to enjoy it and not to be afraid to ask for help years ago back in nl I had a fowlr and not a single person to ask for advice or go to see their tank , so I'm glad the times are changing and we now have a fully accessible hobby that even the less experienced can enjoy
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Old 12-05-2010, 04:51 AM
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great post Denny, I too find myself telling newbies to check out kijiji and canreef to buy used for their first tanks, even though that may seem counter productive, but i have the same philosophy, help those get into tanks for a decent price, and in turn they always feel good about their tank and come back to see me for stock! So a win win as far as im concerned......hell i even had a board for used equipment in my last store for people to post up for free...

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Old 12-05-2010, 06:46 AM
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great post Denny, I too find myself telling newbies to check out kijiji and canreef to buy used for their first tanks, even though that may seem counter productive, but i have the same philosophy, help those get into tanks for a decent price, and in turn they always feel good about their tank and come back to see me for stock! So a win win as far as im concerned......hell i even had a board for used equipment in my last store for people to post up for free...

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thanks steve and i always tell people to visit your store and ask you for advice and i tell people your always willing to help people get started and not out to treat people like dollar signs , new equipment is great and in my opinion alot of it is a must have but for new people i believe there should be the option or knowlege of used gear to get started.now im not saying to go buy the cheapest stuff you can find but if i know someone with a high end skimmer for sale for half of its cost than obviously thats a savings, what started this was seeing alot of problem rock for sale on kijiji in the last while with alot of hair algae and aiptasia or mojanos.....for like 8/lb............not right in my opinion alot of people try to pawn off full systems that are just getting by for 500-1000 when they are only 50gallons or so and when someone buys this they think great deal untill they realize their system is just getting by and upgrades are needed

alot of money can be spent if you buy on impulse or from advice from otheres without doing any re search and alot of new people dont know where to turn for advice.i was at big A's a little while ago and heard one of the staff say that an elegance is a perfect start up coral and this lady had said her tank is only running for a month..........not good advice for a coral that had a $230 price tag. i stepped in and said i would not purchase that coral and explained she should stick to beginner corals untill she has the hang of things. the staff member didnt ask about lighting,water parameters,or live stock....this lady had her young daughter there and was trying to make something nice for her daughter if she had of bought that in a week she would be mad her coral withered away and she would be that much closer to giving it up.cant stress enough about patience in this hobby

steve you are one of the great ones ive never ever seen you give advice just to make a sale and as the owner of the business you work there and interact with the customers which is the best practice imo keep up[ the good work and youll always have my business and i will always tell people to visit your store
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good post I help newbies where I can I even buy up rock and stock pile it so newbies don't have to pay up to $13/ pound here in the loops. I sell it to them for what it costs me including my gas. I will search out any equipment they need if they ask me to do it for them I have a extra set of hands and eyes at home most of the time, (my wife has MS and is on the computer off and on throughout the day.) My wife find deals and leaves them up for me to look at. I have saved people Much $$$$$$.... and given them a lot of advice also, I commend what you are doing.

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Old 12-05-2010, 02:57 PM
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Hey Denny,

Do you want people to ask you questions through this thread as well?

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Old 12-05-2010, 03:11 PM
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for sure you can ask here on the thread or in a pm or to my e mail which ever is more comfortable for you, if you post your questions on the thread you will get advice from alot of great reefers and if its something your looking and you post it maybe someone will see it and offer to help out


thanks bvlester , not too long ago i had someone message me from kijiji to my hotmail, they wanted help in looking for some coral but werent sure where to look and what they could get. i was planning a trip to red coral anyways so i invited the person to meet me there and we could talk about their tank and see in person some of the coral they could get

ive helped alot of people in edmonton get going and i know theres quite a few on here as i usually tell them to make an account and ask ask ask.i know close to 50 people id say in this city who have tanks and ive been to most houses or vice versa not to mention i keep in good faith with most of the lfs's here in town. i feel lucky to have known so many reefers here in the city that i thought i would put that to good use
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