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Old 08-07-2010, 09:47 PM
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Its wonderful that its absurd that my house didn't burn down.
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I don't need to change the timing belt on my car because I change the oil every 4900K. Give your head a shake, thats comparable to the logic that people are using to defend the idea that a GFI can prevent fire. Anyone who has had a GFI prevent what they think would have been a fire is clearly displaying how unfamiliar they are with electricity period.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:59 PM
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Unbelievable. Who gives a damm if one thinks or does not think it prevents fire or not. It should be used with aquariums. Period. Thats it. Wholley crap, what a stupid discussion. It should be about using one to save a life possibly. Regardless of anything else. If someone does not wish to thats their problem. All we can do is try tp persude them that its in their best interest.

Myka, would that maybe be the ones who told me there was not such thing as as a arc fault breaker.
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Old 08-07-2010, 10:18 PM
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Unbelievable. Who gives a damm if one thinks or does not think it prevents fire or not. It should be used with aquariums. Period. Thats it. Wholley crap, what a stupid discussion. It should be about using one to save a life possibly. Regardless of anything else. If someone does not wish to thats their problem. All we can do is try tp persude them that its in their best interest.

Myka, would that maybe be the ones who told me there was not such thing as as a arc fault breaker.

He, he, I'm with you here. I attempted to steer the thread back to the original question, but it seems folks have very selective reading focus at the moment and are intent on flogging these electrons along a different path.
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Old 08-07-2010, 11:32 PM
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Well, I am sorry for coming off as a douche... Admitdley became carried away with this thread.


To wrap things up, I think that there are very few negative aspects from installing a gfi to protect us from accidental electrocution. That's all that should be expected from a gfi, if you are looking to protect yourself from a fire look into an afi or fuse. If you install a gfi and consider your system fire proof you are mistaken and should rethink the preventative measures taken.
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Well sweet Jesus guess what I found at a garage sale today?...... Those awesome non-skid retro daisy decals that grandma had in her tub!! unused and ready to go........AND NOW installed and looking fine. Damn I feel safe. Just a little humour to lighten the air since I started this thread.
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Well sweet Jesus guess what I found at a garage sale today?...... Those awesome non-skid retro daisy decals that grandma had in her tub!! unused and ready to go........AND NOW installed and looking fine. Damn I feel safe. Just a little humour to lighten the air since I started this thread.
Hey. I had some of them in my tub.
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Old 08-08-2010, 02:26 AM
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Myka, would that maybe be the ones who told me there was not such thing as as a arc fault breaker.
It would be wise to find a qualified electrician - not just any Joe Blow with a ticket!
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It would be wise to find a qualified electrician - not just any Joe Blow with a ticket!
I agree with that Mindy. Experienced the difference when when having work done on my place and also from working with many tradesmen in my Inco career. However that applies to all the trade.
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Rehash;

My tank runs on a separate 15 amp circuit, installed just for it, with a GRI outlet in the wall. My controller, which runs the lights, heater, return pump, skimmer, reactor, and top off all runs from it.

Another room receptacle, which is on another 15 amp, but room circuit and has an Arc fault/ GFI breaker, runs my two MP 20,s, plus another in tank heater if we are away.
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A GFI is firstly a personal protection device. It is designed so that a if a person completed a ground fault (short to ground) the GFI would trip so fast that the person would sustain no injury. A GFI is designed to trip with 5mA of stray electricity in less than 25ms.

Having said that many fires can start as a gound fault (short to ground). A GFI would help in preventing these fires. Remember that electicity can easily stray to ground in many many ways. If you have have every been shocked it is most likely that the electricity passed though you to ground....even though you may have been standing on wood floors or carpet. If you were not grounded you would be isolated and in that case you would not feel a shock at all.
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