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Old 04-27-2010, 10:20 PM
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If the fault is in the light and the ground probe is in the tank, then it is still through you.
On a side note a GFCI must trip at 0.006 Amps so I don't think 0.0059 Amps for a time of 0.0083 will be of any concern.
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also given that the GFI must trip at 0.006amp, it shows that is it 10 times lower than what is concidered deadly to a healthy person. 0.06 amps will kill a healthy person if it travels through the heart. this is why they have GFIs, they will trip befor the amprage is anywhere near what is needed to be deadly. a person with a weak heart will requite over 0.03 amps.

Remember these numbers are only if the current passes through your heart. if you are wiping the glass in the tank and brush your shoulder against the lights and get a zap, it is highly unlikly that it would pass through your heart as the quickest path to ground is in your shoulder and out your hand to the water. now if you were cleaning with the left hand and grab the lights with your right and if the amprage is large enough you had a grounding probe, you would still probably be dead as the probe just insures that your hand is in a ground path. so in a way you have more of a chance of getting shocked by a exteranal fixture if you have a ground probe.

my opinion is to install GFIs and through the grounding probe in the garbage.

one thing to note, is GFI outlets still need to be tested ocasionaly time to time. make this a part of your normal maintenance routeens.

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Old 04-28-2010, 07:45 PM
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i run every everything off powerbar with the trip switch on it. I use them on all my tv's and my fishtank. is that basically the same as a gfi?



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Old 04-28-2010, 09:51 PM
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You are going do die... sorry

you need GFCI outlet
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/s...k=P_PartNumber


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i run every everything off powerbar with the trip switch on it. I use them on all my tv's and my fishtank. is that basically the same as a gfi?



http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/7/Electronics/TVsAccessories/ElectricalPowerBars/PRD~0527249P/Likewise%252B6%252BOutlet%252BValue%252BPower%252B Bar.jsp?locale=en

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Old 04-28-2010, 10:04 PM
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aww damn! well maybe i better get one of those, is it any different to install than a normal receptacle?
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:29 PM
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ive never installed one but im about to within the next 7 days as I build my tank.
Im under the impression is really simple. Just make sure you turn off the power to the outlet from the box. When I was a kid, I was changing the face of an outlet and got electrocuted... it was not fun... i couldnt let go and I felt waves going through my body.
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:41 PM
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ya im going to install one here right away. i have a few friends in the trade i could always take a look in my bathroom and see how its setup. With my luck i would end up getting fried..

Thanks for the heads up!

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Old 04-29-2010, 12:11 AM
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"You are going do die... sorry"

Lol. Too bad.
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