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Old 10-26-2009, 07:05 PM
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Sorry about your fish Christy. We grossly underestimate the stress putting a net to a fish causes. I compare it to hooking the fish with a rod and reel. Conservationists and wildlife officers have long known that a small percentage of properly released game fish die from a build up of stress induced lactic acid. Fish simply cant get rid of LA like warm blooded creatures. When you go in and try and net a fish you are not only stressing your "target" fish, but every other fish in the tank as well. Then if your fish survives the QT treatment process, you stress him out again catching him and putting him back in the display.
Oh I totally agree, however in this case he was just laying there. The process of netting the fish (from the outside observer) was fairly easy and uneventful. However, he perked up after transfer to the QT and looked quite stressed before eventually settling down (into eventual death I suppose). I dunno, sometimes I believe that QT tanks are just ammonia factories and I really believe that between the ammonia (I didn't test it) and the stress of the new environment likely caused his demise. Then again, he was just laying there in the display tank too. Ultimately we can only speculate.
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:19 PM
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I have mixed feelings, for most things I suspect QT is more stressful on the fish then the QT med.'s or hypo is good for them. I lost a tang that was eating and looking ok and was 2 years old but he had ich. My other fish were stressing him out so a freind agreed to take him after the ich was gone. I Qt'd him and did a hypo treatment for a few weeks, the fish was stressed out the whole time and towards the end he stopped eating. The last day of QT and we were going to take him to our friends tank I came home from work to a dead fish

On the other hand if I had started QT earlier (or QT'd new fish in the first place) when I went through the marine velevt I most likely would of been able to save most of my fish. Instead I left it too long (because I didn't like QT) and had most of my fish die.
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:28 PM
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Quarenteedning a fish that is already in the system is a waist of time and usaly what kills them. sorry for being blunt.

the purpose is to use them befor you put the fish into the tank so you know you are not bringing anything forgen into your system, if you get a fish that is sick in your display, usaly by the time you see it it is to lait to treat as Christy found out. so now you take a fish that is compromised and chase it around, move it into a new enviorment and what happens..

Most of the time if they fish is going to recover the display will be the best place for it to do so, if it is going to die, it will and it will provide food for the worms and such as in a thriving reef, I would be surprised to ever see a fish that dies in the night again.

Personaly I don't quarenteen on the way into the display tank either as the fish are the secondary objects in my tank and I keep a very low fish load, so if something happens it usaly isn't a big deal as I don't keep anything real exotic. my 90 for example had a tang, 6 chromis, a flame angel, and... I can't remember if there was anything else in it for the last couple years..

now for people who go out and spend 3 or 400 on a fish.. hell ya quarenteen for a month , but I just can't be bothered to keep a temp tank around for the once and a while I might buy a fish.

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Old 10-27-2009, 01:25 PM
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I'll use a QT tank if I'm going to be treating with hyposalinity - that's it.

If I'm buying a new fish (which I haven't for a number of years now), I'll make sure it's been in the LFS tank for a few weeks, and that I know how the LFS tanks are maintained.

IME, popeye has always gone away on it's own and a few water changes probably helped out.

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Old 10-29-2009, 05:16 AM
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I use my Qt tank when I aquire a new fish etc, i will watch it for about a week and then introduce it to the regular tank, any fish I have had that has shown any signs of illness is usually too far gone to be saved. But I won't usually introduce a new fish until I have seen how it goes for about a week or so.
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