Got a kick out of this add

[G1GY]

Originally Posted by sphelps

Quite the opposite actually, I'm not criticizing anything unlike others here. I just didn't find it funny, what so ever and I have a hard tell seeing why someone would and take time out of or her day to share it with others. btw the guy has revised his add and added a website for reference, likely where he or she purchased them from. Also it's not me nor do I know who it is. What I do find amusing is how so many people just love to talk smack about others when they're not looking, for no good reason other than their own enjoyment.

Did anyone consider that maybe some people are willing to spend this kind of money on coral skeletons. Perhaps not everyone enjoys robbing the natural reefs, fyi "90 percent of some of the most popular coral species collected from reefs die before or soon after they reach the aquarium owner". But that's OK, why buy dead when you can buy live for the same price apparently, haha too funny

Are you insinuating that if you buy a dead coral that you're not "robbing" the natural reefs like the people who prefer to buy live coral?
Even if you harvest a dead coral..... you're stealing the home/building blocks of another.
Some might even argue that tank kept corals may be the key to re-introducing a given species once it's extinct.

What I found sad when reading this thread was that I sent 2-5 gallon buckets of these gems to the dump a couple of weeks ago.

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by G1GY

Are you insinuating that if you buy a dead coral that you're not "robbing" the natural reefs like the people who prefer to buy live coral?
Even if you harvest a dead coral..... you're stealing the home/building blocks of another.
Some might even argue that tank kept corals may be the key to re-introducing a given species once it's extinct.

No I'm not suggesting that, however dead coral doesn't die unlike live coral which has around 10% survival rate. Also removing dead coral from the reefs is much less harmful than removing live coral. It's a known fact that using dead coral in your tank over live coral has much less of an effect on the environment, it's published in almost every aquarium book I've seen.
I can assure you the this hobby doesn't help the natural reefs in anyway, to say otherwise is simply a way of absolving yourself. If you disagree show me anything that suggests otherwise, and no research facilities are not part of the hobby.

[Snaz]

Originally Posted by sphelps

i can assure you the this hobby doesn't help the natural reefs in anyway, to say otherwise is simply a way of absolving yourself.

+1

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by sphelps

No I'm not suggesting that, however dead coral doesn't die unlike live coral which has around 10% survival rate. Also removing dead coral from the reefs is much less harmful than removing live coral. It's a known fact that using dead coral in your tank over live coral has much less of an effect on the environment, it's published in almost every aquarium book I've seen.
I can assure you the this hobby doesn't help the natural reefs in anyway, to say otherwise is simply a way of absolving yourself. If you disagree show me anything that suggests otherwise, and no research facilities are not part of the hobby.

I would have to disagree. Dead coral skeletons will give a good base for new corals to grow on and give animals shelter just like live ones would.

[fishoholic]

Originally Posted by fishytime

Im thinking about buying them.....how long do you have to cycle the tank before you add them? When things settle down I'll add a few of these http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-pets-acce...AdIdZ158804944 (by drip of course)......hopefully I can talk him down a bit.

Cmon ....I posted the add here thinking that the majority of us peeps who strive to keep our saltwater tanks full of life, would find the idea of paying $500 bones for dead coral to put in a saltwater tank , funny.....was I wrong?....unfortunately people have varying degrees of senses of humor

I personally see the hummor in it, I got a football sized piece of "real" dead coral in my tank that I got for free, so personally I can't imagine paying that much for dead coral. I guess there are people who think of them as being "art" and would pay good money to display it, but to me it still seems unlikely.

Originally Posted by lastlight

Doug my thoughts exactly. We're in the lounge to boot. I don't really care to debate about it and clearly you and I both got the same innocent enjoyment out of it without pondering the intense and complex issues behind a big pile of dead corals someone wants $500 for.

+1

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by fishoholic

I personally see the hummor in it, I got a football sized piece of "real" dead coral in my tank that I got for free, so personally I can't imagine paying that much for dead coral. I guess there are people who think of them as being "art" and would pay good money to display it, but to me it still seems unlikely.

Fair enough, I get things for free sometime too, one example are some very nice rare coral frags from good friends. The difference is I don't try and publicly humiliate and insult a guy that doesn't have the same advantage and has to buy the same corals for full retail price (and I'm not saving you did).

Finding something funny is one thing but when it results is harsh criticism and unnecessary comments I believe it crosses the line, which is the only reason I piped up in the first place.

[lastlight]

Well this has gotten pretty intense. I think if someone found the post funny perhaps it was because they thought the dead corals weren't worth anywhere near $500. I still don't which is independant of all this chatter.

[fishytime]

Originally Posted by sphelps

Finding something funny is one thing but when it results is harsh criticism and unnecessary comments I believe it crosses the line, which is the only reason I piped up in the first place.

Do you ever get those funny emails?...You know, the ones your friends forward you.....maybe you dont... Thats all this was......I posted it because it made me snicker and I thought some here might feel the same....and they did....if you didnt think it was funny....fine....keep your mouth shut and let us have our fun....is it hurting anyone?....if anything I just got a thousand more people to look at the add then would have before....just blows me away how something so innocent like my original post can get so intense because of one or two .....people.... poo poo on someone else's parade *just my 2 cents.*

[Ryan]

Shelps I am talking colony to colony. The dead pieces have just as much impact on a reef as live ones do. Removing a piece whether live or dead can and most likely will have a major impact on a reef.

Can you please explain this logic to me.

very rarely does a single coral live forever in an aquarium while a dead coral does.

Its my understanding a dea coral is already dead so how does it live forever in an aquarium?

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by fishytime

Do you ever get those funny emails?...You know, the ones your friends forward you.....maybe you dont... Thats all this was......I posted it because it made me snicker and I thought some here might feel the same....and they did....if you didnt think it was funny....fine....keep your mouth shut and let us have our fun....is it hurting anyone?....if anything I just got a thousand more people to look at the add then would have before....just blows me away how something so innocent like my original post can get so intense because of one or two .....people.... poo poo on someone else's parade *just my 2 cents.*

Have fun at your own expense not someone elses who had no choice. Yes I think someone got hurt, seems people think the author has seen this thread how does he feel? Emails are private, public forums are not.