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Old 08-17-2009, 02:59 AM
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I've never heard of the fu man chu being anymore difficult to keep than any other lionfish. All the ones I've seen at the LFS adapted much better than other types. I've also had one for over a year and it has always been easy to feed.
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I don't mean any offense, but your one success alone doesn't outweigh the majority. I honestly don't know much about keeping rhinopias or leafs. I always thought frogfish were supposed to be pretty easy to keep. True that the eel would require escape proofing; forgot about that.


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Predator and reef is not done often but it's not difficult. Most predators like lionfish are not very active meaning they use less energy than most reef fish, so you actually can feed them less. Check out my tank, not too many fish but my bioload is small, I go through much less food than I did with a more standard reef tank.
You could say the same for any fish, but good husbandry means feeding the proper amount of food, not the convenient amount.
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Old 08-17-2009, 08:13 PM
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I don't mean any offense, but your one success alone doesn't outweigh the majority. I honestly don't know much about keeping rhinopias or leafs. I always thought frogfish were supposed to be pretty easy to keep. True that the eel would require escape proofing; forgot about that.
None taken but it was not based on my one success, I've seen many of these fish come in and adapt well, much better than most other dawrf lions. Just because this fish may be considered "one of the more difficult lionfish to keep" doesn't mean it shouldn't be attempted as you seem to think. It may be difficult compared to other dwarf lions but may be quite easy compared to other fish which are often kept. It should of course be approached with caution as you may need to feed it live food until it can be trained on frozen but this is typical of most lions. Providing information about a fish and why it may be difficult to keep is helpful but simply stating it should not be done is not. No offense.

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You could say the same for any fish, but good husbandry means feeding the proper amount of food, not the convenient amount.
Not really, most reef fish swim non stop and feed constantly in the wild to keep up the energy they require. This means in captivity they require several feedings daily to stay healthy. Predators like lion fish don't move around very much and conserve energy better, this is because they don't eat as often in the wild and this adaptation will transfer into the aquarium, therefore you should not feed them as often.

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Old 08-18-2009, 04:52 AM
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None taken but it was not based on my one success, I've seen many of these fish come in and adapt well, much better than most other dawrf lions. Just because this fish may be considered "one of the more difficult lionfish to keep" doesn't mean it shouldn't be attempted as you seem to think. It may be difficult compared to other dwarf lions but may be quite easy compared to other fish which are often kept. It should of course be approached with caution as you may need to feed it live food until it can be trained on frozen but this is typical of most lions. Providing information about a fish and why it may be difficult to keep is helpful but simply stating it should not be done is not. No offense.


Not really, most reef fish swim non stop and feed constantly in the wild to keep up the energy they require. This means in captivity they require several feedings daily to stay healthy. Predators like lion fish don't move around very much and conserve energy better, this is because they don't eat as often in the wild and this adaptation will transfer into the aquarium, therefore you should not feed them as often.
What do you mean when you say that you see many of these fish come in.......
Come into where?
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What do you mean when you say that you see many of these fish come in.......
Come into where?
The LFS, I may only have one tank myself but I've setup and maintained many in the past. I'm also good friends with the LFS owner and employees so I tend to notice when certain fish are trained on frozen. I've also been looking for a new dwarf lionfish but haven't found one just yet, like I said the fu man chu's seem to be doing better on average but I already have one of those. It also helps that the owner of our LFS is very knowledgeable and does very well at training many types of fish onto frozen.
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