overflow question

[golf nut]

In order to get the best you can from any pump you need to maximize pipe diameters, every little helps, sometimes seeing is believing and unless you have done testing it is hard to believe, try running your return pump into a container and based on time and gallons do the math.

Here is what is hard to believe.

Since the birth of Christ, a Trillion seconds have not yet passed, ... do the math.

[Jack]

The herbie is not a syphon and you will not drain more.

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Jack

The herbie is not a syphon and you will not drain more.

like I said before it's about head pressure. Herbie will flow more

[Jack]

Have you used one?

I have, it won't drain more.

[sphelps]

yes I have. Comparing a standard standpipe to a Herbie with the same bulkhead size the Herbie will typically flow more. For example if your overflow is about 2 feet tall and you run a Herbie you have 2 feet of head pressure on top of your drain input to help push more flow in. With a standpipe you don't have this. Just like running a pump at zero head compared to 2 feet of head, but it works in an opposite fashion with a drain, more head pressure will mean more flow.

Of course I say typically because for this to work you have to have the primary drain located at the bottom of the overflow and not have any kind of extension tube, otherwise you don't have the head pressure to push more flow. To demonstrate try an experiment, fill an old tall container will water and punch a small hole in the side near the bottom and you'll see a jet of water spray out. You'll notice as the water level decreases, which reduces the pressure at the hole, the water jet will not spray as far.

You can also note that the primary reasoning for a Herbie is noise reduction not increased flow. The idea is the system can take a large amount of flow and drain it whisper quiet.

[Canuckgod420]

Anyone notice when I started this thread the last thing I said was "this should be fun"....

[Millepora_Maniac]

Hi Man,
I've actually seen this pump, it looks just like a reeflow snapper, except diferent colours. And furthermore, if you think about having a bath, then sometimes you use epsom salts and bath oils and crap like that. So the seals are going to be resistant to all of the stuff that's floating in our water! And seriously, who cares about the carbon footprint of the pump! We get hydro-electric power out here!! It just means you pay more for the power consumption!!!
Cheers-Ken

I tend to believe Jeff from J+L, I've taken all of his advice so far, that is except for yours

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Mr OM

Here is what is hard to believe.

Since the birth of Christ, a Trillion seconds have not yet passed, ... do the math.

Every year 100,000,000 sharks are killed by man