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[300g]

This is 300g's wife. He's at work today and won't be able to see everyone's posts til later but I'm sure he'll get me to explain what this person meant and what the other meant. I normally don't get involved with his fish hobby other than occassionally going to BigAl's/J&L..with him to see what he wants to pickup next or be the occassional translator as needed when he needs to order his tank or equipment online. I only started following his thread cuz I'm amused by all the "stirred" up comments. He was so excited yesterday that he called me at work to read up on the comments and translate to him. I am sure he will take all the constructive critism in stride cuz that's the way he is - what's life without learning by experience & other fellow hobbiers. I assume you all as fish fanatics hope that his tank ends up doing well. As for the recommendation of pouring bleach into the tank and walk away-yep, plain nasty. Maybe some of you are waiting for the moment to say "I told you so...". Well, again, not knowing much about this hobby + the ramifications of this supposedly crowded tank - I still hope my hubby gets his chance to say he did ok!! Thanks & Cheers all !!

[my2rotties]

There are many awesome members on these forums... I think your husband's tank and fish are beautiful, and hope the very best for both of you. If he does need help, I do hope he comes here for help, because there are members that want him to succeed and for his fish to thrive. These forums are a wealth of info, and although there are some jaded and not so nice members, there are countless wonderful members.

Please do keep posting pictures, the tank is amazing to look at!!! I am glad you are a part of your husband's hobby, since I know he appreciates it more then he will tell you. Thanks for sticking up for him as well...

Diana

[naesco]

Originally Posted by 300g

This is 300g's wife. He's at work today and won't be able to see everyone's posts til later but I'm sure he'll get me to explain what this person meant and what the other meant. I normally don't get involved with his fish hobby other than occassionally going to BigAl's/J&L..with him to see what he wants to pickup next or be the occassional translator as needed when he needs to order his tank or equipment online. I only started following his thread cuz I'm amused by all the "stirred" up comments. He was so excited yesterday that he called me at work to read up on the comments and translate to him. I am sure he will take all the constructive critism in stride cuz that's the way he is - what's life without learning by experience & other fellow hobbiers. I assume you all as fish fanatics hope that his tank ends up doing well. As for the recommendation of pouring bleach into the tank and walk away-yep, plain nasty. Maybe some of you are waiting for the moment to say "I told you so...". Well, again, not knowing much about this hobby + the ramifications of this supposedly crowded tank - I still hope my hubby gets his chance to say he did ok!! Thanks & Cheers all !!

Let me summarize what I 'think' most of the posters who have posted and many who have not posted are concerned about.

Your husband appears to have had experience in keeping fish and has a suitably sized tank to accommodate the larger fish. The concerns may be.
1. Large naso tangs and large angels are notorious for going on a hunger strike and as a result refuse to eat despite the best efforts of the reefer and die.
2. Angels are very sensitive fish and are subject to stress more so than many species. Keeping so many so quickly simply increases the likelihood that they will not have time to to accommodate themselves to their new environment and will die of stress.

The fact is that some have already died and some are sick which does not bode well for the future.

I am surprised that a reputable LFS would sell you so many of these species without warning you. LFS know the potential as often they are unable to get these fish to feed.
Of course all of us pray that the fish do survive.

IMO opinion success in this hobby requires patience. IMO the fun part is going to the LFS on a fairly regular basis, seeing a fish we like, reading up on its requirements and buying it, and than adding more over time.
Success is much more important than pictures. Reading up about the proposed fish purchase asking questions on this board avoids 'the learning experience' you spoke of because it avoids unnecessary fish death.
Keep us updated on their welfare. Thank you

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Originally Posted by naesco

Let me summarize what I 'think' most of the posters who have posted and many who have not posted are concerned about.

Your husband appears to have had experience in keeping fish and has a suitably sized tank to accommodate the larger fish. The concerns may be.
1. Large naso tangs and large angels are notorious for going on a hunger strike and as a result refuse to eat despite the best efforts of the reefer and die.
2. Angels are very sensitive fish and are subject to stress more so than many species. Keeping so many so quickly simply increases the likelihood that they will not have time to to accommodate themselves to their new environment and will die of stress.

The fact is that some have already died and some are sick which does not bode well for the future.

I am surprised that a reputable LFS would sell you so many of these species without warning you. LFS know the potential as often they are unable to get these fish to feed.
Of course all of us pray that the fish do survive.

IMO opinion success in this hobby requires patience. IMO the fun part is going to the LFS on a fairly regular basis, seeing a fish we like, reading up on its requirements and buying it, and than adding more over time.
Success is much more important than pictures. Reading up about the proposed fish purchase asking questions on this board avoids 'the learning experience' you spoke of because it avoids unnecessary fish death.
Keep us updated on their welfare. Thank you

I pretty much agree with this and think most do. Personally I don't see anything wrong with the amount of fish and fish choices BUT adding them all at once is indeed asking for trouble. I think everyone hopes and wishes they do well, for the sake of the animals who didn't have a say in the matter...except one person of course who wishes to kill all your fish with bleach for no apparent reason. Still can't believe someone said that

I also agree with Wayne when he says half the fun is adding fish over time! But thats just me. I love knowing right now that I have quite a lot of room still in my tank to add more fish. Well I probably only have room for one more big fish but I have loads of room for little guys

Please don't be deterred by the one or two negative comments and keep posting. You have a great tank.

There are many things about this hobby that many people will not agree on. I for one don't care so much about tank size as I do about how well the fish look and get along and yours looks great IMO.

Good luck.

[richtg]

Some beautiful specimens. Looks like a lot of work will be involved to keep them healthy (especially in the next few weeks/months).

I'd be doing heavy water changes weekly (like 50%) for a few weeks and feeding lots too (to help with the stress factor).

I understand your excitement in adding all those fish at once, but in my opinion, patience is the best tool a reefer can use.

Good luck, I hope things work out for your tank. Looks great!

[fishoholic]

Originally Posted by 300g

As for the recommendation of pouring bleach into the tank and walk away-yep, plain nasty.

Yikes! Honestly I'm quite appalled by the fact that some one on here would say such a thing I'm glad that the mods removed that comment but I'm still shocked that it was made it the first place.

A lot of people have different ways of doing things in this hobby. Just because someones way is different then how you would do it (albeit right or wrong) doesn't mean you have to be nasty to that person.

I hope everything works out for you and your fish.

[Lance]

Nice tank; and your fish are incredible.

[Keri]

Thanks for posting pics, they are beautiful fish. Yeah, it seems like a lot to add all at once but if aggression would be an issue otherwise then I can see your reasoning for doing it this way. You're better than me at keeping up with water changes, that's for sure! Having kept fish for years I'm sure you know the risks, and I doubt anyone would risk killing all of those beautiful (and not cheap!) fish. The tank is very nice and clean, thanks for sharing the pics

And tisk tisk to the person who posted the bleach comment! How does that help the fish at all??

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Any chance of getting equipment pictures? I would like to see the sump.

[lastlight]

for the record i pointed out what the nasty acronym meant. I also commended the mods on a job well done and my posts were also removed. If my posts were removed simply because they related to the nasty posts it'd be nice if that was explained to me. I hate sifting through a thread only to find my input has been deleted.