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Old 01-29-2009, 03:04 AM
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Manual removal of cyano is utterly futile.

I ran Red Slime Remover when on Zeo and it kicked the cyano once and for all. I was all jittery about doing that while on Zeo but it worked out fine in the end. FWIW I ran Coral Snow like no tomorrow and followed the Zeo instructions on page 23 or whatever and all it accomplished was I used up more Coral Snow and Zeobak than otherwise. Didn't touch the cyano in the least.

The cyano never came back after that treatment.

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What is in Red Slime remover? I seem to remember someone telling me once it can really screw a tank up. I can't remember what exactly they said but I do seem to remember being warned about the stuff.

I am seriously debating going back to a good old refugium, ozone, kalk, ect. to keep nutrients down in the new tank over ZEO. I know I should be giving it more time but I am not even a fan of having to dose so much and test everything all the time, ect.

Seems like so far it has done the tank some good but also been a pain. I think what I will do is see if someone wants to buy the reactor package from me. If I can sell it easily, then I will not do ZEO on the new tank but if not, then I will stick with it. LOL...seems like such a stupid way to decide but I don't really care either way at this point. I just kind of want my tank to go back to how it was pre-ZEO
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I always thought red slime remover was erythromycin. Which is why it can mess with your bacterial load. Kills the baddies but some of the goodies too.

Of course I may be wrong (note that I said "may" )
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I always thought red slime remover was erythromycin. Which is why it can mess with your bacterial load. Kills the baddies but some of the goodies too.

Of course I may be wrong (note that I said "may" )
I do remember the person saying it killed something in their tank every time they used it but...I can't even remember who told me this

Hmmmm...Tony says its fine though, so I will use it and then blame him if/when anything goes wrong
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I'm going to try the coral snow/zeobak mix and see how that goes. If that doesn't work then well, I'll wait to hear your results and go from there
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I've used red Slime remover before in my Zeo Tank.

My skimmer went nuts for 8 days but other than that no problems

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I've used red Slime remover before in my Zeo Tank.

My skimmer went nuts for 8 days but other than that no problems

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Good to know. That makes me feel better about it...Both you and Tony have used it in a ZEO tank and apparently not had problems.

Perhaps I will give it a shot tomorrow.
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Don't forget the "before" photos
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Here are some before photos. I will have to take an actual FTS though later.

This is the worst of it. Down in one dark corner of the tank. Nothing but sand down there and actually a decent amount of flow:



I seem to be getting less in areas under the most light. You can see the coral coloration is getting better and better:



This spot is pretty bad too and you can see the gorgonian in the background is being covered in cyano. It doesn't extend its polyps much anymore since starting ZEO



This guy seems to like the camera



Nice Polyp extension...This coral always was very "bushy" and full of PE but now its really taken off:



The Long tentacle plate is looking better than ever. Very nice polyp extension and it seems to be eating more than it used to. This was taken after lights out the other night:



A shot of some of the guys....

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I see what you mean about the corals looking great, at least there's that.

If you do it, your water will turn yellow for the first half hour or so, it will be so bad you'll immediately question "WHAT HAVE I DONE" - persevere through that, it's normal and it WILL clear up in an hour or so (you should also take out your carbon for a day or so and then put in new carbon afterwards, and probably replace that carbon after a few days). Your skimmer WILL go completely nucking futs, you'll have to turn it off for at least a day and when you start up it will have to be adjusted right down. The stuff does skim out quickly though, you can ramp your skimmer back up to normal after a day.

It does drop O2 levels in your tank, so if your skimmer is in sump my suggestion is just take the collection cup off and let the bubbles stay on. At least that should mitigate it.

In ten times of using the stuff, about 2 or maybe 3 times I used it, my ritteri spawned the next day. Whether that's a response to the chemical, a response to the diminished O2, or complete coincidence, I can't say. Just a FWIW.

I don't think it's great to run it, but I have no hesitation about running a treatment if cyano gets bad. It's just a pain because of all the extra things you have to do to clean it up afterwards but a week afterward you should be looking at pristinely white sand and the cyano ought to remain gone.
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