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Old 12-13-2008, 12:19 AM
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I'm confused what you learned that it's wrong? For lfs to bring in big fish?... you bought one so there is obviously a market of which you are a part?

And it's too late this time but you'll know for next time? But in the mean time everyday you will look into a tank at something that you're against. I just don't understand how you learned this valuable lesson and yet you continue to be a part of it everyday until the fish dies. And if that is going to be a short span you should give him to someone with a bigger tank or put him out of his misery b/c like you say below "I will not contribute to the unethical treatment of animals if possible"

And if he lives a long time why not get another one?? Oh right... quality of life. You would never want another one to have the bad life you're about to give this one???






Maybe not solely on size but in part.




This is not a good argument because good arguments are founded on something solid. Your argument is dynamic and changes and in doing so it's irrational, and illogical.



Yeah sounds really nice



Strange that you say this b/c from what I can tell you spent more time crying over Ed and giving a sob story than actually trying to get some insight as to why your 55 crashed... so get that one figured out yet?




I guess you need to define ethical?? Is it ethical to give animals a lower quality of life for your own personal enjoyment?? I'm pretty sure a tank isn't the best environment for a lot of fish that we keep, so how is it ethical to sacrifice their quality of life for your enjoyment? It's not ethical it's selfish but I'm ok with that because my quality of life is more important to me then there's but again you can't play both sides. "Agreed I'm selfish... but I won't mistreat animals" Technically you are... oh right... "I wontif possible." Unless you'd like to redefine mistreatment?



Sure you wont... ps your husband going for you is basically the same. No I don't wanna go out for pizza I'm feeling fat, but can you bring me back some




I make ignorant and dumb purchases as well, because I liked something and wanted it now, but I don't come home and say how there should be laws to stop me from being stupid

Oh ok... you're right you we're ignorant so it's ok... np. To bad we live in "such a throw out society" but lets let people use ignorance as an excuse. But then your mad because there is a market for the exact kind of ignorance you displayed.

But now your eyes are opened and you'll never do it again and you want to change the terrible things in the hobby... NO BIG FISH! NO BIG FISH! oh him he's a puffer... cool hey! He's miserable but I decided to keep him anyway. And if he's happy then why you hating on the lfs?? And saying there should be laws against big fish?




I think I do understand... that it's irrational




You can shop where ever you want... I just hope you don't find a reason to bash all the lfs and wonder how you'll stay in the hobby when you blame them for your bad choices and vow never to go back after one bad experience



Do you cry when you eat salmon?? Or is it ok for taste enjoyment and just not visual enjoyment? You're shortening the life of every fish you own and your ok with that? So you don't take the deaths that seriously... and I'm only making this point b/c again it seems like you try to play both sides of the fence and show how you care sooo much about your fish, but not enough to not support the hobby.

I know we can care about the fish we have but at the end of the day if we over emphasis how much we care and how serious the fishes deaths are than we shouldn't have them. At the end of the day we don't take a fishes death that seriously b/c we'll still sacrifice it for food, or for pleasure.

Please don't tell me that the food part is a need.




I guess I'm just trying to help you draw those lines because right now yours looks like this:

Wow...you seem to have taken this very personal. You own a fish shop by any chance?
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Old 12-13-2008, 07:35 AM
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Wow...you seem to have taken this very personal. You own a fish shop by any chance?
Nope... I just get frustrated when people are irrational and have swing arguments.

The poster and this thread reminds me of a lady on the radio who "can not believe what Alberta has allowed the oil industry do to the environment!" All this she says as she flies over the oil sands in a plane that is fuel powered. The only reason she could even make such a statement, and the only reason she could see what she was seeing is b/c she was seeing it.

I just get really frustrated with people who are totally ridiculous. They talk and complain but in actuality the whole while they are only implicating themselves.
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Sheez. This is a board for posting about our hobby, not an ethics board. Lighten up already.
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Old 12-13-2008, 03:14 PM
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Sheez. This is a board for posting about our hobby, not an ethics board. Lighten up already.
That's kinda my whole point at the end of the day they're just fish that we are supposed to enjoy. You do what you can to give them a good home but we can't pretend that we feel soooo bad and still keep the fish and keep buying more or I think you're in the wrong hobby.... which is the only thing that I said at the beginning besides #17 I thought it was a clown that ate puffers ahah, #29 lfs do take stuff back, #33 trying to keep the peace,

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I still think you're in the wrong hobby based on a lot of your threads and posts
You can't play both sides or I don't know how you can be in the hobby.

I'm just saying she's not being rational and am pointing out contradictions in what she's saying and I think she agrees

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I did admit I contradicted myself on many matters. When you have mixed feelings about things, that does happen.
The problem with mixed feelings and contradictions is it makes half of what your saying garbage and steps on some people along the way.

Just pointing that out... it's ok to contradict yourself but if you point that out because you're confused your and ass and attacking people??

No worries... I'll just keep my frustrations to myself and quietly enjoy the positional yoyos

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