12000k xenon car lights

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Whatigot

who was stating otherwise?
some people on this thread were WONDERING at the possibilities but I don't see anyone here saying that it's definite.

It been stated in this thread and I quoted above, statements where made regarding higher efficiency and higher par ratings than other bulbs. These were also stated and claimed as fact not opinion and no evidence supports the claims.

Originally Posted by Whatigot

My point, again was only that skepticism of anything is the greatest in it's infancy and you may not be aware of this but there are entire communities online to people dedicated to nano tanks.

Where do you get the info that not many people are interested in 5.5 and under?
since you're so adamant about having a basis to prove stated facts?

What percentage of people in the saltwater hobby do you think have a 5.5g tank or smaller? 5% maybe, and that's probably generous. Now what percentage of that 5% would actually spend upwards of $200 on a light fixture? Maybe 25% of the original 5% which means your total market is only 1.25% of people in the hobby. Oh yeah that's a great business move, it would take 100 years to pay for the R&D.

[dabandit]

How many more times are you going to call me a liar? The FACTS do exist I've seen them. A xenon H.I.D is a metal halide H.I.D allmost identical technology why is it hard to beleive their out puts would be very similar?

[Snaz]

Originally Posted by dabandit

How many more times are you going to call me a liar? The FACTS do exist I've seen them. A xenon H.I.D is a metal halide H.I.D allmost identical technology why is it hard to beleive their out puts would be very similar?

You may have read something that you take as factual but unless we can ALSO read it, it will not be factual to us.

Definition of FACT: a statement or assertion of verified information about something that is the case or has happened.

Show me the information and let me judge the "facts". Thank you.

[superduperwesman]

Originally Posted by Whatigot

some people on this thread were WONDERING at the possibilities but I don't see anyone here saying that it's definite.

Originally Posted by dabandit

How many more times are you going to call me a liar? The FACTS do exist I've seen them.

I'm confused...? Are you guys on the same team or different ones??

[dabandit]

Originally Posted by superduperwesman

I'm confused...? Are you guys on the same team or different ones??

That comment was directed at phelps,check again youll see what I mean

[superduperwesman]

Originally Posted by dabandit

That comment was directed at phelps,check again youll see what I mean

ahah I don't need to check again to know who the comment was directed at... maybe if you check again you'll see what my point actually was

[Whatigot]

Originally Posted by sphelps

It been stated in this thread and I quoted above, statements where made regarding higher efficiency and higher par ratings than other bulbs. These were also stated and claimed as fact not opinion and no evidence supports the claims.


What percentage of people in the saltwater hobby do you think have a 5.5g tank or smaller? 5% maybe, and that's probably generous. Now what percentage of that 5% would actually spend upwards of $200 on a light fixture? Maybe 25% of the original 5% which means your total market is only 1.25% of people in the hobby. Oh yeah that's a great business move, it would take 100 years to pay for the R&D.

again, you're going out on a limb here and assuming a lot which I thought from your previous posts was contradictory to your nature but now I see it's merely selective depending on if it's you who wants to make a point or someone else.

I like how you can state hearsay as fact, but if anyone else alludes to doing that, you're all over them.

show me the stats man and you have some ground to stand on, if you can't you're in the same boat you put dabandit into by your own words.

[Whatigot]

Originally Posted by sphelps

It been stated in this thread and I quoted above, statements where made regarding higher efficiency and higher par ratings than other bulbs. These were also stated and claimed as fact not opinion and no evidence supports the claims.

see?

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Whatigot

see?

Nope sorry I don't see??

Regardless I was asking questions not stating facts and my numbers used where examples, apply what you think the numbers are and you'll still see the same results. The point was you weren't looking at it from a marketing point of view.

But seriously what percentages do you think are accurate?

[Whatigot]

Originally Posted by sphelps

What percentage of people in the saltwater hobby do you think have a 5.5g tank or smaller? 5% maybe, and that's probably generous. Now what percentage of that 5% would actually spend upwards of $200 on a light fixture? Maybe 25% of the original 5% which means your total market is only 1.25% of people in the hobby. Oh yeah that's a great business move, it would take 100 years to pay for the R&D.

sounds like someone stating facts and not asking questions.
Look at all of those unsubstantiated numbers you threw up there to try and make your point...lol

Give it up, eat your cake or have it, don't try and do both.