What the Heck are we balling about??

[StirCrazy]

OK so let me see if this is right, buying a pro-flux controller, 3 stage dosing pump, containers, and the different chemicals is cheaper than getting a Ca reactor... Either your getting ripped off on your Ca reactor or your getting stuff for real cheap.

also if you have a very low evaporation setup the balling method might not be able to put enough stuff in to maintain levels, a Ca reactor is a recirculating system so no water is added.

Also how do the trace elements come into play, a Ca reactor will also put trace elements back into the water as they are also bound in the media. I didn't see anything in the balling explanation that covers that.

Steve

[Aqua-Digital]

Hiya

You dont need a profiLux controller. the dosing pumps systems come with controller built in at $474. If you already have a Profilux then the price drops to $352.00

So what do you need for a calcium reactor

Calcium reactor.
CO2 bottle
Regulator
Means of flow control (often a dosing pump)
pH regulator if you want to get the most out of it

For a good calcium reactor set up that is worth its $$ you will pay more then this for sure.

Balling method -

Salts
Dosing pump unit.

In reagrds to evaporation, minerals do not evaporate, and the system is designed to only put in exactly what the sytem requires, this is the huge difference.

Calcium reactor type mineral supplementation is based on guess work as to what minerals are in the media to be released, further more you then have to add kalk to do the job properly and magnesium and trace elements. it starts to get a bit messy.

Now looking at the balling method.

3 containers (we can show you a fab neat unit that has been developed in the USA) each container already having exactly the right amount of minerals, all you need to do is work out the draw that your system has on these minerals, you can then only if you feel the need add further trace elements to boost colour.

This system is not new, it has been around for years in Europe and is proven to be THE most effect way to supplement a reef system thats why so many people in Europe use it. Simple affordable and extremely accurate in dosing.

To give you an idea how people are seeing this as the way forward, we shipped two weeks ago to the USA 30 dosing pump systems and 300Kg of salt, the supply is now on back order for the USA. This has really caught on now and we hope this side of the border will see the true benefits also

I agree 100% it is hard to shake off tried and widely used concepts, but sometimes it's worth looking at a different angle and wander why something like this is so popular? Is it better? Proof seems to be in its popularity and results that it provides and the actual concept makes sense.

[Reefer Rob]

You can do the 2 part or the Balling method as cheaply or as expensively as you like. When I started, I used 3 Aqualifter pumps and 3 timers. Peristaltic pumps offered way more accuracy, and the Profilux controller takes care of my whole tank.

The last time I adjusted my dosing amounts was in May. Since then CA and kH levels have stayed virtually unchanged. I spend 10 minutes of hard labor filling a 20l and a 10l jug with water and chemicals every few weeks.

I've never owned a calcium reactor, so I don't know how 3 peristaltic pumps and 3 plastic jugs (milk jugs for a small tank) would compare to the price of one.

also if you have a very low evaporation setup the balling method might not be able to put enough stuff in to maintain levels

I add less than 300ml to a 180G tank daily.

Also how do the trace elements come into play, a Ca reactor will also put trace elements back into the water as they are also bound in the media.

The only trace element I add is Iodine, but I'm curious to see if the Fauna Marin for the Balling Method trace elements would make any difference, if anyone in the Lower Mainland ever starts carrying them.

[Aqua-Digital]

Progressive reef has them and so does ocean aquatics.

Your synopsis is great.

It is true as quite rightly put, this method is not about what salts you buy (well it is in regards to purity) but about the method itself. I guess as the distributor this message can easily get lost.

The only thing I would add is make sure you get pure product and that is why we push the fauna salts - purity, you can even use these salts for your chosen two part.

[sphelps]

I'll be installing this kind of dosing system on a clients tank in the next few weeks. I will also be switching out my Ca reactor for this kind of system, to me it just makes more sense. Even when my Ca reactor is working flawlessly it does not match my systems requirements perfectly, still always have to correct levels manually, plus I find a Ca reactor always needs constant attention to keep the flow rate of water and CO2 constant. Why not have a system that simply doses exactly what you need everyday automatically and requires less attention and maintenance?

Looking forward to this system, thanks!

[Aqua-Digital]

Let us know how you get on, feedback always welcome

[lastlight]

I agree with what Sphelps said. I also plan on dosing when my 225 is up and running. And space isn't a huge concern. Most dosers can draw from jugs that are in different rooms or hidden a floor below although I have set aside room for 3 jugs.

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by lastlight

I agree with what Sphelps said. I also plan on dosing when my 225 is up and running. And space isn't a huge concern. Most dosers can draw from jugs that are in different rooms or hidden a floor below although I have set aside room for 3 jugs.

Yeap, plus Ca reactors take up just as much space if not more with the reactor and CO2 tank.

[StirCrazy]

Originally Posted by Reefer Rob

I add less than 300ml to a 180G tank daily.


The only trace element I add is Iodine, but I'm curious to see if the Fauna Marin for the Balling Method trace elements would make any difference, if anyone in the Lower Mainland ever starts carrying them.

yup, a large tank, but lets say you have a small tank with only .25L a day of evaporation. I am not talking about the lever of the minerals changing but rather how much water do you need to add to maintain your mineral balance? can you adjust the concentration of the chemicals so you are not putting in a lot of water, say less than 25 ml a day?

Steve