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Old 04-17-2008, 02:35 AM
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Thats easy to say when your not the one out the $1400.00 that i could have been warn about if people were allowed to inform others.

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I'm sorry you're out money, but it is not the responsibility of Canreef to monitor vendor conduct. If you've been taken advantage of, I would pursue legal action through appropriate means.
This topic is something we've discussed at length for many years, and we've adopted a policy that works for us in running this board. It's not designed to assist anyone in stealing your money, it's just how we can manage the board long term with the least amount of trouble.
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I'm sorry you're out money, but it is not the responsibility of Canreef to monitor vendor conduct. If you've been taken advantage of, I would pursue legal action through appropriate means.
This topic is something we've discussed at length for many years, and we've adopted a policy that works for us in running this board. It's not designed to assist anyone in stealing your money, it's just how we can manage the board long term with the least amount of trouble.
Has anyone ever attempted legal action with a vendor? PM if you have any experience with this. Judging from the response to this thread i am not sure about Can Reefs policy working.

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Old 04-17-2008, 03:45 AM
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I'm sorry you're out money, but it is not the responsibility of Canreef to monitor vendor conduct. If you've been taken advantage of, I would pursue legal action through appropriate means.
This topic is something we've discussed at length for many years, and we've adopted a policy that works for us in running this board. It's not designed to assist anyone in stealing your money, it's just how we can manage the board long term with the least amount of trouble.

I'm sorry but I can't stay out of this now. Its your responsibility to ban any vendor from this forum that you know is not a good vendor, comitting criminal acts against canreefers (fraud, theft, etc.etc.). Do you not realize that you are also legally liable if you support a vendor that is comitting a criminal act against people on this forum and are aware of it. Perhaps if someone has a beef with a vendor you should send them a pm and listen to what they have to say. Sometimes people just want to vent and all they need is someone to care.

I realize that this post may cause me to loose my membership (I'll just sign in under a different name) but I need to voice my opinion.
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Old 04-17-2008, 04:17 AM
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So at that point, I think we all want to know 24storm, is this a vendor in our forum ?

I for one will PM you to find out who stung you in case I can help.
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I realize that this post may cause me to loose my membership (I'll just sign in under a different name) but I need to voice my opinion.
Why do people feel the need to post such stupid comments?? Never has any one lost their posting rights for this kind of thing, so give it a rest already.

Now, we provide a board to discuss reef related topics as defined by the ownership of the board. We are in no way responsible for anything a store does in it's dealings with any customer, whether they advertise here or not. And for what it's worth, the only store that has had this brought to our attention is no longer an advertiser on this board.

We are not looking for vendor rating methods or ideas, we just do not allow it here. Period. This is not something that will be discussed or negotiated.

If anyone can find a board that supports it, please post it there.
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Old 04-17-2008, 06:07 AM
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I'm sorry but I can't stay out of this now. Its your responsibility to ban any vendor from this forum that you know is not a good vendor, comitting criminal acts against canreefers (fraud, theft, etc.etc.). Do you not realize that you are also legally liable if you support a vendor that is comitting a criminal act against people on this forum and are aware of it. Perhaps if someone has a beef with a vendor you should send them a pm and listen to what they have to say. Sometimes people just want to vent and all they need is someone to care.
I realize that this post may cause me to loose my membership (I'll just sign in under a different name) but I need to voice my opinion.
I am going to step in quickly here to revert some questions back to you for consideration in response to your comments:

1) Is the Vancouver Sun or The Province or ANY newspaper responsible to ban any vendors from their Classified sections that they know are not a good vendor?

My guess is no however feel free to contradict my beliefs if otherwise.

2) Are the media companies also legally liable if they support a vendor committing a criminal act?

My guess again is no because if one is to look at the numerous "Massage" parlours and Personal Ads in the Classified section where in essence it is public advertissement of prostitution.

How about the car vendors that sell used cars that later turn out to be vehicles with altered VINs? My guess is again no they are not legally liable because they are only providing a service for these companies to advertise in their papers.

3) If the victim consumers of these Personal Ads, Massage Parlours, or car vendors were to write to the media company complaining about their experience with that particular company, are they OBLIGATED to publish this information?
My guess is they are not obligated to publish this information but they will if it is news worthy.

This analogy is not much different from Canreef's position and policy on this matter. Both environments are privately owned and they both set their own policies and regulations. Vendors will advertise and Canreef provides a service for these companies to do so. For reasons already outlined very well by Brad, Canreef is not obligated to publish vendor ratings and they are moderated by the staff accordingly.

We (the staff and owner) sincerely want to keep Canreef as positive of an environment as possible and this topic has been discussed many times before publicly and amongst the staff. We have all collectively agreed on this therefore we hope you all understand the position we have taken and that this decision had not been made in haste.

Having said that I understand you may have been angry, upset or maybe even irrational when you wrote your post however I will encourage you to conduct in better mannerisms with the concludiing remarks of your posts.
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