Help Me Please

[mark]

Read up on SW ich.

Spots will appear then drop off but the ich is never really gone just moved along in it's lifecycle, nor is FWD alone a cure.

Seems a lot of us probably have ich in our tanks but often never shows as fish can handle it if they're kept under good conditions. Having a couple of Tangs in a small tank might have caused enough stress to allow the ich to take hold.

Might also be a factor is setting up a new tank then quickly adding stock you got a little cycle going (spike of ammonia).

[Salmon King]

All fish have ick on them.It is dorment till something happens/stress/health.You should quaratine any new fish if you can before putting in your maine tank as you risk losing all your fish by not doing this.Rubbermaid tote is a cheap quaratine tank.Just add powerhead heater and airstone if you have one.Ps use cupramine in your quaratine but dont overdose.

[rigger11]

Originally Posted by Salmon King

All fish have ick on them.It is dorment till something happens/stress/health.You should quaratine any new fish if you can before putting in your maine tank as you risk losing all your fish by not doing this.Rubbermaid tote is a cheap quaratine tank.Just add powerhead heater and airstone if you have one.Ps use cupramine in your quaratine but dont overdose.

really is this true??? never heard that befor

[Redrover]

Tang's require swimming room...Tank way to small
You will loose them because of stress

[mark]

Originally Posted by Salmon King

All fish have ick on them.It is dorment till something happens/stress/health.You should quaratine any new fish if you can before putting in your maine tank as you risk losing all your fish by not doing this.Rubbermaid tote is a cheap quaratine tank.Just add powerhead heater and airstone if you have one.Ps use cupramine in your quaratine but dont overdose.

Maybe, maybe not they have ich but a good idea to quarantine. I'm being a little hypocritical here in saying QT stuff as I haven't always, but looking by me not, I brought something into my system. Now I'm looking at some major work breaking down a 145g display, disrupting fish and corals, where as it all could have been prevented by setting up a small little 10g (size depending on fish) with a heater and HOB filter or even a plastic tub.

As for cupramine, it can be harmful even if done right so wouldn't suggest using it unless for sure the fish in QT show signs and then probably only after trying hypo-salinity and finding that unsuccessful.

[Matt]

Am I the only one who thought "troll"? Apologies to the OP if I'm off base, but...

[howdy20012002]

SK, please give one document that proves what you have stated...not all fish have Ich...it can be treated and removed 100 percent by hypsolanity.
ich cannot remain dormant for more than a month which is why you leave your tank fishless for over 4 weeks, preferably 6 weeks.
I have killed a few fish trying to treat with Copper but I haven't killed one fish with hyposalinity.
the only thing that SK said that I agree with is that you should quarantine new fish for at least 2 weeks.

DF - From the sounds of it, you have a fish only tank.
if you don't have any inverts, snails, or corals, i would lower the SG of your tank between 1.010 and 1.013 and leave it like that for a month.(hyposalinity)
this is will kill off the ich. read up on the internet and see how to do this.
You basically just add fresh water to the tank until the salt level drops low enough.
if you still have the cleaner shrimp, remove it before you lower the SG.
you cannot leave anything other than fish in the tank though cuz it will kill it.
Copper isn't a 100 percent effective and you have to be very careful how much you add as it is toxic and will kill your fish.

You should not have a tang in a 32 g as it doesn't provide enough swimming space.
I have a very small purple tang in a 29 gallon, however I am preparing to move it into a larger tank when it gets bigger.
IMO, you don't need a skimmer for a tank. Lots of my tanks don't have one.
However, that means that you will need to do more water changes as the water will foul quicker.
Ich will not hurt your LR.
is your fluval a canister filter? if so, I would get rid of it...they tend to just become nitrate farms.
filtres, IMO aren't really necessary. I have hang on's on my smaller tanks but just to keep the surface of the water clean.
You can have just a powerhead in there that is at least 10 x the gallons of your tank and that will suffice.
in a 32 gallon, opinions vary, however, I would say that 3 -4 smaller fish would be fine.

I am sure others will have things to add...and I sure that others will disagree.
However, I am just giving you my advice from my own personal experience.

HTH
Neal

[mark]

If the tank is FOWLR would be hesitant for a whole tank treatment of hypo-salinitity due to the possible effect to life on the LR (pods, sponges, bacteria etc).

[howdy20012002]

it will not affect bacteria.
probably would effect pods and sponge.

[Pier Pressure]

A fifteen gallon aquarium housing 5 fish and other creatures means that you are overstocked, I think. I have five fish in a 29 gallon and I consider myself to be right at the limit. As others have said, the tangs are going to need a new home regardless.