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Old 08-20-2007, 07:01 PM
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This is an exellent article; Anyone trying to battle ich should take the time to read and digest the following:

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-08/sp/index.php

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...ture/index.php

Great info
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Old 08-20-2007, 10:03 PM
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Um .... I thought ick was allways present in the tank? Its when a fish becomes stressed or weak that the parasite can take hold. Am I wrong?
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Old 08-20-2007, 10:15 PM
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It sounds strange but the best thing i have done is let the fish battle the ick out. I have never removed a fish or treated it for ick, rather hoping it wins the battle itself. To this point in my fish keeping i have not lost one. I think the benefit is that you do not put more stress on a fish that is already stressed.

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Old 08-20-2007, 10:16 PM
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Um .... I thought ick was allways present in the tank? Its when a fish becomes stressed or weak that the parasite can take hold. Am I wrong?
It is possible to have an ich free tank, it just takes a bit of extra work on the hobbiests part to keep it that way
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Old 08-20-2007, 10:55 PM
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I know this is controversial and not proven by any stretch, but have you tried soaking the food in garlic?
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I have

They are always feed garlic and selcon soaked foods.

So the update. I have now lost my 6 line and skunk clown. So i am left with the flagfin, regal angel, and the cleaner wrasse. I dumped all the water in the hospital tank. Put in new stuff and tried seachems paraguard. We'll low and behold the breathing slowed down and they are eating dinner. soooo i don't know what it is or what it was but i am crossing fingers as to maybe i will beat this.
Although the rest i will truly miss as they all had great personality this regal angel is one i do not want to lose. Not your typical regal and has ate from day one. Eats everything and anything. And after losing one regal to not eating i think that losing her will throw me over the edge...

So thank-you for all the support and suggestions and hopefully this will be it


And to note this is one mean strain of ick. I have fought ick and brooke before but nothing compares to this. I have read that there were mean cases of it going around but my god.My total lose ended up being 6 in 3 days. And what is odd is when the 2 anthias went they went at pretty much the same time. They both ate dinner and 30 min later both were together in the back side by side dead.They were a couple for 18 months as they were 2 of my first fish in my 130.

Sorry for going on its funny how attached to your fish you become.

It is a sad day at our house

Thanks again everyone.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:35 AM
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I'm so sorry for your losses, I really hope your other fish make it.
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that sounds more like velvet than ick. Looks the same but velvet kills much quicker. I lost a few fish to a velvet outbreak when I thought it was ick. Treatments must be applied quickly and I think copper is the only successful treatment as hypo doesn't work very good on velvet. Just a thought
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It could be velvet.If it is once it gets in the gills its to late.The only other thing that makes a fish breath hard is amonia witch burns the gills.Garlic is a wise tale.Ask any marine bioligist

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Alright. We lost the regal
But here is the interesting part. With a little help from Alberta and the gang from Golds we might have figured it out. When we pulled the regal out he pretty much looked like he was bleeding from the inside out. Lateral line was literally through the skin on both sides and he had sores on him where the blood spots where.

So after Albert coming to the rescue this is what he came up with.
Vibrio
Sounds like pretty much what happened. Didn't matter how we treated them they all died anyways. Apparently we brought it in with some new frozen food that can get infected after packaging. As the water was and is perfect although the mag and alk are a little low.

Scarey thing is we can catch it and we have had our hands in the tank
So the plan is let the U.V run on the tank and leave it fishless for a long long time. I don't think i can watch helplessly as more fish die.

I do still have the flagfin but he is not looking so swift hot this morning so we will see.

Thanks to everyone for the support though it was nice to come and vent somwehere where people understand how attached we get to out little water friends
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