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[Moogled]

Man, you guys should really look into keeping a smaller tank and just casually keep a reef tank until you're older.

You're young. You don't have money. You don't have experience.

It's better to breed this hobby slowly if you're starting out young.

[bv_reefer]

-and where do you propose i get experience from moogled, looking at an empty tank till i think im ''ready''? -or actually getting off my behind and actually trying a hobby out? which do u propose gives more meaning 2 the hobby?

[Mik_101]

Originally Posted by Moogled

Man, you guys should really look into keeping a smaller tank and just casually keep a reef tank until you're older.

You're young. You don't have money. You don't have experience.

It's better to breed this hobby slowly if you're starting out young.

Moogled I don't think were going to tare are whole tank now. Now I bet 50 more people will agree with you. I don't see the point of canreef when me and my cosine are going to be harassed left and right.

[bv_reefer]

-by the way i heard small tanks can be quite a pain in the a**, with all the fluctuations in temp,pH,salinity and all that...

[Mik_101]

Originally Posted by bv_reefer

-by the way i heard small tanks can be quite a pain in the a**, with all the fluctuations in temp,pH,salinity and all that...

Yah I also herd that as well.

[Aquattro]

Boys, the problem is you're young and inexperienced. No problem, that's what we're here for. Now, when someone tells you something, stop arguing all the time. Most people giving you advice have been here for 5 years or more. Things like you don't need sand to buffer, Seaclones are garbage, etc. These things are true. BV, you complain that it takes too long to search for things....are we in a rush for something? Use the search function, we pay to keep everything archived just for that reason. Look up "buffer +sand" or "seaclone" to find out what has been talked about over the years.
Should you tear your tank down? No. But if you're going to ask questions and participate in these threads, listen to the advice given. People are trying to be helpful, not get in an argument.

[reeferaddict]

Originally Posted by reef_raf

Boys, the problem is you're young and inexperienced. No problem, that's what we're here for. Now, when someone tells you something, stop arguing all the time. Most people giving you advice have been here for 5 years or more. Things like you don't need sand to buffer, Seaclones are garbage, etc. These things are true. BV, you complain that it takes too long to search for things....are we in a rush for something? Use the search function, we pay to keep everything archived just for that reason. Look up "buffer +sand" or "seaclone" to find out what has been talked about over the years.
Should you tear your tank down? No. But if you're going to ask questions and participate in these threads, listen to the advice given. People are trying to be helpful, not get in an argument.

Couldn't agree more with you Brad and if ANYONE on this board is any kind of "guru" you are it...

In defense of the young people though, we DO tend to talk down to them I think in part because of the way they talk... much like the way WE talked different than our parents and previous generations... maybe the expressions in use by younger people today are misunderstood by some of us senior statesmen... the fact that the youngsters are taking up reefkeeping instead of hanging at the local "hang out" and taking up crack smoking says to me that they're already headed in a positive direction, so when one asks something why don't those of you that have POSITIVE information and encouragement say something and provide the guidance these people are looking for instead of offering up defeatist statements. Especially in THIS of all hobbies! C'mon people! There is not any one right way to do ANYTHING in this hobby! Every system and organism are different and we are a group of people with varying philosophies and budgets... so let's give these kids the same respect and latitude we give to each other and by golly some day one of 'em might just discover something IMPORTANT by accident because as mentors we taught them it was OK to think FREELY...

Everybody have a nice day!

[reeferaddict]

Oh ya kids... MY SeaClone would beat YOUR SeaClone....

[Der_Iron_Chef]

Originally Posted by reeferaddict

Couldn't agree more with you Brad and if ANYONE on this board is any kind of "guru" you are it...

In defense of the young people though, we DO tend to talk down to them I think in part because of the way they talk... much like the way WE talked different than our parents and previous generations... maybe the expressions in use by younger people today are misunderstood by some of us senior statesmen... the fact that the youngsters are taking up reefkeeping instead of hanging at the local "hang out" and taking up crack smoking says to me that they're already headed in a positive direction, so when one asks something why don't those of you that have POSITIVE information and encouragement say something and provide the guidance these people are looking for instead of offering up defeatist statements. Especially in THIS of all hobbies! C'mon people! There is not any one right way to do ANYTHING in this hobby! Every system and organism are different and we are a group of people with varying philosophies and budgets... so let's give these kids the same respect and latitude we give to each other and by golly some day one of 'em might just discover something IMPORTANT by accident because as mentors we taught them it was OK to think FREELY...

Everybody have a nice day!

Thank you for saying this. I work with kids every day who smoke crack and throw their lives away. I guess that's why I find the younger ones here to be refreshing. They're not, after all, throwing punches at me and telling me to go **** myself.

I'm a little disappointed in the community here, which I've come to respect and admire.

[Doug]

Thanks guys for those last couple of posts. We need some of our members to back off here. If there is a problem the staff will deal with it.