265 gallon setup

[niloc16]

good points. marc from hidden reef was the first one to put the idea in my head about doing a basement sump and i have thought about it. the extra work is not what worries me it is a matter of drilling through the floor, i mean the house is only a year old. if i did go in the basement the closed loop would have to go down there as well because the one thing i really dislike is the bloody humming of the pumps, with just the return pump going it is alright but once the barracuda fires up for CL it is loud and annoying at times. chin do you have pics or links to your setup as far as plumbing the tank to sump and what not. or does anyone have a link so i can what it looks like going through the floor. i've seen pictures of the basement setup but none of the upper floor where tank is and going through the floor. now you guys got me seriously thinking about this. the wife is going to kill me! maybe not, she hasnt yet with all the stuff i keep doing to this system

[Tarolisol]

If you put the closed loop in the basement your barracuda pump would onle be pumping at max 1000gph which is a waste of a good pump, plus the energy used skyrockets as well.

[mark]

Suggest we start a thread just for basement sumps showing pictures and leave this one just for niloc16 system.

Once I find my card reader I'll post some I just took of mine.

[niloc16]

basement sump thread would be awesome. there is very limited info and pictures out there for people to make a decision

[Chin_Lee]

Niloc
going through the flooring is easy. If you have carpet, cut an X in the carpet, peel it back and drill through the plywood. If you ever pull it out again, replace the hole with the piece you drilled out and reinforce with 2x4 and then just comb the carpet back in place

BUT just going through the photos, it appears you have laminate flooring. If its the more recent stuff, I believe you can unclip parts of it off. Get some extra pieces and store them away for the future. IF and when you dismantle, you would have to remove the pieces with holes drilled through and clip the new ones back. IT IS EASIER SAID THAN DONE but its do-able

I would not put the close loop all the way onto the basement floor - I would put the close loop just under the flooring and maybe between the joists. drill some 2x6's to make a shelf between the joist and put your baracuda in there. It will be a tight squeeze and if its too narrow, mount it as close to the ceiling as possible to minimize head height loss - I assure you the HUM will be greatly reduced especially if you are able to put in thick insulation in the floor joists between the pump and floor. I have lots of humming coming from my basement sump room now with an iwaki70, and mak4, and soon to be started up is the big mean barracuda...... I CANNOT imagine having all that humming in my living room.

[Chin_Lee]

i got another idea looking through your photos. if you want to plumb through the wall, cut a hole in the gyproc to the size of one of those air return vents.
Then drill the holes (you are gonna have to use some DEEP hole saws) through the 2x4's or 2x6's inside the the wall. just make sure there are no electrical lines running along the bottom of the studs.
when you dismantle, just put the return air vent on the wall and it will just look like another vent.

[Joe Reefer]

Originally Posted by niloc16

basement sump thread would be awesome. there is very limited info and pictures out there for people to make a decision

Imagine being able to stand inside your stand and have a 6 foot skimmer foaminig like a banshee. It really broadens your systems potential of being an even bigger money pit. (reactors, denitrators, props, fuges, ozoners, hosptial tank, quarantine,zeovit,r/o unit...................)

[mark]

Started a basement sump thread in the pictures forum
http://216.187.96.54/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=28266



Niloc16, Still say be happy with what you have and relax for awhile. One of the things that got me when started was once I had my mind made up I would see a picture or talk to someone and started doubting my plans. Live with what you have for a bit, see waht you like or don't like, there's alway room for changing and upgrading later

[niloc16]

awesome ideas guys, and really you dont have to try and convince me. i would like to do it, but i guess its like chin mentioned earliers its a matter of whether i want take on the workload. i was under the stand earlier and examining the plumbing as far as where i would cut and if i am able to cut to attach new plumbing to it to send it downstairs. it does seem possible as far as attaching to the current plumbing but i'm definitely going to have to think harder on this one. i agree with you joereefer as to wanting to stand up in my 'stand' it would be awesome having everything downstairs, a place i could 'escape' to. to be honest the one factor making me hesitant is the fact of hacking my house further and in a permanent way too. i mean its pretty unlikely of us moving but still, the house is so new. i guess i'm just thinking out loud to you guys. if you having any pictures of your setups with basement sumps please post

[niloc16]

mark thats true. ideas continously change, more then i imagined. i'm going to do up some plans and drawings and get info from you guys and then make a decision.