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Old 03-07-2006, 02:07 AM
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also would it be safe to store the liverock in freshly made saltwater...if i put a powerhead and heater in there? since even the worms are dying in the main tank i probably can't hurt. Feather duster is still going strong as well as emerald crab....hermit has slowed and the urchin is lethargic...could be cause he poked me while i was trying to get the clows out and i dropped a rock on him
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also would it be safe to store the liverock in freshly made saltwater...if i put a powerhead and heater in there? since even the worms are dying in the main tank i probably can't hurt. Feather duster is still going strong as well as emerald crab....hermit has slowed and the urchin is lethargic...could be cause he poked me while i was trying to get the clows out and i dropped a rock on him
Remove the rock to water that is known to be safe. Make sure the new water is close to the same temp as the tank. Aerate the heck out of the new water and keep it aerated the entire time the rock is in the new water. Yes, also keep a heater in with the rock. You want to keep the water as close to tank temps as possible.

I'm thinking about what may have caused the sad meltdown of your tank:

1. You did not use a dechlorinator and livestock, including LR, are dying because of the chlorine.

2. The new saltwater you used had not been properly aerated (at least for a couple of hours, overnight is better) and heated, and the shock of the vastly different temps, pH, and other gases in the tapwater were enough to begin a cascade of dying organisms.

Whatever happened, it's a terrible shame to lose so much livestock all at once like this
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Old 03-07-2006, 02:40 AM
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I think it is the salt, he mixed a new batch and it went cloudy in 10 minutes, that is just wrong!
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hey everyone
just thought i would add a good note
the clowns appear to be doing fine in my invert tank
weird though, when i started adding my tank water to the bag of water they came in to acclimatize, the water became less cloudy and material started to solidify
i dunno what this means..
i don't think that salt would start to solidify again..
unless
wait..what is ur salt content? maybe ur Hydrometer is out..
how much salt are u putting in per gallon?
Shoot..should've tested the water with my refractometer before dumping it?
maybe that has something to do with it..
maybe way too salty?
i dunno..
Hopefully my salt will work for ya
way too weird
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hey everyone
just thought i would add a good note
the clowns appear to be doing fine in my invert tank
weird though, when i started adding my tank water to the bag of water they came in to acclimatize, the water became less cloudy and material started to solidify
i dunno what this means..
i don't think that salt would start to solidify again..
unless
wait..what is ur salt content? maybe ur Hydrometer is out..
how much salt are u putting in per gallon?
Shoot..should've tested the water with my refractometer before dumping it?
maybe that has something to do with it..
maybe way too salty?
i dunno..
Hopefully my salt will work for ya
way too weird
i dunno if my hydrometer is out, i assume no...i make the water to beabout 1.024-025, lfs tested with refract a month ago and it was a little off but not much, maybe is the high alk content....or maybe my calcium test is buggered and the purple up i added was too much...i tried best as i could to keep it in the 400-430 range....hopefully those little clowns will be happy for awhile..
Thanks again neal....mucho mucho thanks

On another note my father said he would help me with a new tank purchase later in april so thats some good news...plus i am going to stock up on more essentials before i start....amazing how quick your stock depletes in an emergency...especially that damn prime....
I stirred up the sand bed a HUGE ammount when i did new water....but ammonia only reads just above zero or so....i have all the other water with the liverock in it....best i could do....hopefully this is going to work out...have a feeling those clowns with be with you neal for a good 6 weeks or more
hope that is okay...maybe the tank will cycle again/if it has tooo...by the next meet I'm buying the pizza for everyone...most assuredly.
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Don't mean to rude but I gotta ask
You did use reef salt and not table salt right?
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Don't mean to rude but I gotta ask
You did use reef salt and not table salt right?
no i used kosher salt.....

yes i used reef salt....instant ocean..
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Glad to hear some of your stuff will make it, and you are sticking with the hobby! A few months back I lost all my fish but 1, and 3/4 of my corals due to instant ocean's bad batch of salt, but mine was never cloudy. Most LFS took instant ocean off their shelves for a couple months. Apparantly they changed ownership or something and tried to cut costs, I dont know the whole story, just that I lost couple grand of stuff, and my tank is just starting to come back now. So I know what it feels like.

When you are ready, I have a colt, kenya tree, xenia, and by then maybe some zoos and green star polyps for you to restart your tank with, just PM me.
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Remove the rock to water that is known to be safe. Make sure the new water is close to the same temp as the tank. Aerate the heck out of the new water and keep it aerated the entire time the rock is in the new water. Yes, also keep a heater in with the rock. You want to keep the water as close to tank temps as possible.

I'm thinking about what may have caused the sad meltdown of your tank:

1. You did not use a dechlorinator and livestock, including LR, are dying because of the chlorine.

2. The new saltwater you used had not been properly aerated (at least for a couple of hours, overnight is better) and heated, and the shock of the vastly different temps, pH, and other gases in the tapwater were enough to begin a cascade of dying organisms.

Whatever happened, it's a terrible shame to lose so much livestock all at once like this
yep basically whole tank is pooft....
i always add dechlorinator...i usually use a little more prime than i should...i'm paranoid...

i dunno....starting over basically....just mixed some new salt put it in tank, hopefully bacteria in the filters is ok, otherwise when i put liverock back in it's going to cycle over again....

hmm...
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