Importing Coral Discussion (CITES)

[acepumping]

my thing is, never trust the border.. they never give you a straight answer, yet alone a proper answer..
eg: no alcohol tolerated!!
but it's ok for a 6 pack lol..

do your full due diligence and have paper work noted and signed from proper people saying it's ok...

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[Animal-Chin]

Maybe the vendors will take into consideration the proximity to canada and pre prepare for us? Lol maybe?

[dino]

Originally Posted by JamRobo

Well just goes to show how much of a joke the border system can be... i got this info from calling and talking to people at cites and cbsa and cfia.... trust me i spent hours researching and on the phone... im not trying to spread false info this is just what i was told by them... and i declared them everytime ive brought them accross its not smuggling.... ive been searched and held while cbsa does their research and everytime they send me through just fine....
Sorry to anyone that i may have mis informed im going to call cites again and discuss this further with them. Again.

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hey JAMROBO I wonder if you can get them to put it in writing?

[davej]

Give this a read in regards to importing without a permit

https://www.ec.gc.ca/alef-ewe/defaul...n&n=882C0307-1

[davej]

If you check here

http://checklist.cites.org/#/en/sear...=3&per_page=20

You will find
All stony corals are listed under Appendix II


And if you go here:
http://www.ec.gc.ca/cites/default.as...2958484A-1#_02

You will find:
Appendix II
Are not currently rare or endangered but could become so if trade is not regulated.

International trade is possible, controlled by permits.
Specimens to be imported into Canada must be accompanied by:

a CITES export permit issued by the exporting country


So if you got thru the border with stony corals you got lucky.
But in my opinion its only a matter of time

[corpusse]

Originally Posted by WarDog

The 2018 Macna Seattle page just changed its location to Omaha Nebraska. I'm starting to think its a BS facebook page.

I asked earlier in the thread where this info came from but no one bothered to reply. I mentioned I was under the impression the location of MACNA for the following year is announced at the current years event. This is when the location will be announced.

As for this whole border mess I think the big thing is different border crossings are clueless as to the real rules. I recently moved to northern Ontario and needed to renew my passport, I was going over to the US just for a day and a Service Canada employ suggested I make a photocopy of the passport (at service canada) and use that to cross into the US at Sault Ste Marie MI, her exact words were "I can almost guarantee you will be fine if you cross here". This completely shocked me. I refused her advice and instead traveled with a passport expiring in 7 days. Now I was fine and as per homeland security Canadians are exempt from needing additional time on their passport but I still went early and fully expected to be questioned about this.

I've heard of people here bringing back LPS / SPS and declaring it and being okay, but again all it takes is one person to know the rules and you will be in trouble.

[WarDog]

There was a FB page titled MACNA 2018 that started off in Seattle, that was advertised by Reef Builders Magazine. Yesterday, the location of that page was changed to Omaha. Acepumping emailed MASNA last night and they said that it was not their page and that no location of MACNA 2018 has officially been announced.

DaveJ has added some very helpful links in regards to importing corals through customs. I would recommend that if you are looking to do this, to be VERY aware of the rules before you attempt it.

This thread will probably be edited when I have time. (DONE)

Cheers,

[EdsonFOWLR]

MACNA 2018 is in Vegas
http://macnaconference.org/2018/

[WarDog]

Originally Posted by EdsonFOWLR

MACNA 2018 is in Vegas
http://macnaconference.org/2018/

You're late to the party.

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...ighlight=Macna

[chi]

Anyone here going to MACNA vegas and planning to bring back corals? I'm only acquiring LPS and softies.