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Troy, please do not judge an animals ability to survive in captivity or its appropriateness for captivity based on whether an LFS can keep it alive.
There are many factors that can greatly affect an animals chances of survival in captivity, the majority of these happen before the animal even lands in Canada or Los Angeles.


Give me a break Tim, if the odd goniapora survives for a year or so in hobbyists' tank and an even fewer number survive longer than that we can probably assume they're better left in the ocean. I respect a retailer who know this. It's like pacific host anemones, once they're in a good tank their survival rate is fairly good. However, if the majority of them die in the store's tanks maybe they too should be left in the ocean. If the hobby can't survive doing what's right maybe there shouldn't be a hobby.


Im going to back Tim up on this one, if you cant keep goniapora or host pacific anemones alive then you are most likely not properly caring for them. Some exceptions such as bad shipping or poor handling. You should also refrain from trying to keep them untill you have the knowledge needed to properly care for them. I have seen both host anemones and goniapora florish in my facility, flourish in Tims facility, and flourish in my customers tanks. I have many customers with goniapora that they have cared for for over 4 years. Out of about 50 gonipora I have brought in over the last 2 years I only know of 1 that died. If you keep goniapora in a tank setup for SPS of course it wont make it, it needs specialized care! If you would also notice that the stores that have problems keeping certain species, also usually have poorer quality livestock. Or they dont bring it in cuz they dont have the time to take care of its special requirements. I have one customer that refers to host anemones as the plauge as he usually has about 4-5 anemone splits per month. This happens because he properly cars for his anemones