Puffer eating clownfish

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Originally Posted by superduperwesman

I'm confused what you learned that it's wrong? For lfs to bring in big fish?... you bought one so there is obviously a market of which you are a part?

And it's too late this time but you'll know for next time? But in the mean time everyday you will look into a tank at something that you're against. I just don't understand how you learned this valuable lesson and yet you continue to be a part of it everyday until the fish dies. And if that is going to be a short span you should give him to someone with a bigger tank or put him out of his misery b/c like you say below "I will not contribute to the unethical treatment of animals if possible"

And if he lives a long time why not get another one?? Oh right... quality of life. You would never want another one to have the bad life you're about to give this one???






Maybe not solely on size but in part.




This is not a good argument because good arguments are founded on something solid. Your argument is dynamic and changes and in doing so it's irrational, and illogical.



Yeah sounds really nice



Strange that you say this b/c from what I can tell you spent more time crying over Ed and giving a sob story than actually trying to get some insight as to why your 55 crashed... so get that one figured out yet?




I guess you need to define ethical?? Is it ethical to give animals a lower quality of life for your own personal enjoyment?? I'm pretty sure a tank isn't the best environment for a lot of fish that we keep, so how is it ethical to sacrifice their quality of life for your enjoyment? It's not ethical it's selfish but I'm ok with that because my quality of life is more important to me then there's but again you can't play both sides. "Agreed I'm selfish... but I won't mistreat animals" Technically you are... oh right... "I wontif possible." Unless you'd like to redefine mistreatment?



Sure you wont... ps your husband going for you is basically the same. No I don't wanna go out for pizza I'm feeling fat, but can you bring me back some




I make ignorant and dumb purchases as well, because I liked something and wanted it now, but I don't come home and say how there should be laws to stop me from being stupid

Oh ok... you're right you we're ignorant so it's ok... np. To bad we live in "such a throw out society" but lets let people use ignorance as an excuse. But then your mad because there is a market for the exact kind of ignorance you displayed.

But now your eyes are opened and you'll never do it again and you want to change the terrible things in the hobby... NO BIG FISH! NO BIG FISH! oh him he's a puffer... cool hey! He's miserable but I decided to keep him anyway. And if he's happy then why you hating on the lfs?? And saying there should be laws against big fish?




I think I do understand... that it's irrational




You can shop where ever you want... I just hope you don't find a reason to bash all the lfs and wonder how you'll stay in the hobby when you blame them for your bad choices and vow never to go back after one bad experience



Do you cry when you eat salmon?? Or is it ok for taste enjoyment and just not visual enjoyment? You're shortening the life of every fish you own and your ok with that? So you don't take the deaths that seriously... and I'm only making this point b/c again it seems like you try to play both sides of the fence and show how you care sooo much about your fish, but not enough to not support the hobby.

I know we can care about the fish we have but at the end of the day if we over emphasis how much we care and how serious the fishes deaths are than we shouldn't have them. At the end of the day we don't take a fishes death that seriously b/c we'll still sacrifice it for food, or for pleasure.

Please don't tell me that the food part is a need.




I guess I'm just trying to help you draw those lines because right now yours looks like this:

Wow...you seem to have taken this very personal. You own a fish shop by any chance?