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			 So I started another tank ,  rsm 250  and had bought fiji rock from fijireefrock.com  cycled/cured the dry rock in coolers first. Three weeks in the coolers  at 82° with lots of flow and the rocks cycled nice .  I did a full water change and soaked for a few days to check for phosphate leach.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	So I added my sand carib sea ocean direct 80lbs and stacked my rock and filled the tank. Rock was out of water for maybe an hour as I was filling the tank with water I got ready days before. So long story short I added a few raw clams and a couple shrimp for my ammonia source . Its been 10 days now with the tank running and i never got any ammonia but my nitrites are high and nitrates are high. Could it be the bacteria I previously built on the rock plus the sand is consuming the ammonia fast and I wont see a spike. Current tests are Ammonia 0 Nitrite 3+ Nitrate 20-30 ppm  | 
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			 Try adding enough pure amonia (or as pure as u can find) with no perfumes or the such until you get good reading on test kit then see what tank does with it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 No expert on the matter but I don't think your supposed to have nitrites and nitrates occurring at the same time. Are your test kits reliable? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 I looked a lot of places for ammonia found a couple but no ingredients list  bought one but foams a little much on a shake test for me to trust it . It was from london drugs. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 Kits are salifert 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 Your ammonia test kit may not be accurate or you never got a large spike due to the initial curing process of the rocks.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 When i started a new tank and used live rock and live sand i never really had an "ammonia spike" it was a very small almost un noticeable cycle.  I would think the nitrate and nitrites are from the shrimp and clams you added to your tank.  I could be wrong but that is my experience with it. A week after setting it up i had all my fish and coral in my tank with no issues. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 Thats what I was thinking with the rock , cause I had a decent spike of over 4ppm of ammonia when the rocks were curing in 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	The coolers . So im wondering if I can get some nice ammonia should I add it or wait this out .  | 
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			 Personally if you have had a small spike id wait it out, Im sure it wont be long before its ready to rock 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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