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Old 11-28-2013, 03:16 PM
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I don't want to change anyone's mind here, but I sure don't understand some of the comments about LEDs. I had T5s before, and couldn't imagine going back.

Re color with LEDs. I don't get it. With mine (Radions) I can choose whatever I want. They can be preprogramed on the computer, and then choose them with the touch of a button on the lights. I have blue, royal blue, red, green and white lights that I can tune the mix and intensities of each in a program. If I want the corals to glow, I can do that. I actually prefer the natural look, which is my default.

I do have a special program that only uses white light that I can use for taking coral pics, which then gets rid of that purple/blue effect without having to adjust the white balance. That takes the press of just one button on my lights.

I can even program the lights to be different in different regions of my tank. And there is a huge choice of programs you can import, too. Some claim superior growth. Some just for looks.

As for growth, my SPS is doing great. And I have great color, too.

I'm sure all LEDs are not equal, and maybe some people don't know how to program them. Perhaps that is the real issue.

With T5's, everything is manual, and you have to change bulbs to get the look you want. And you have to keep changing bulbs, over and over....

So, each to their own, I guess...
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I don't want to change anyone's mind here, but I sure don't understand some of the comments about LEDs. I had T5s before, and couldn't imagine going back.

Re color with LEDs. I don't get it. With mine (Radions) I can choose whatever I want. They can be preprogramed on the computer, and then choose them with the touch of a button on the lights. I have blue, royal blue, red, green and white lights that I can tune the mix and intensities of each in a program. If I want the corals to glow, I can do that. I actually prefer the natural look, which is my default.

I do have a special program that only uses white light that I can use for taking coral pics, which then gets rid of that purple/blue effect without having to adjust the white balance. That takes the press of just one button on my lights.

I can even program the lights to be different in different regions of my tank. And there is a huge choice of programs you can import, too. Some claim superior growth. Some just for looks.

As for growth, my SPS is doing great. And I have great color, too.

I'm sure all LEDs are not equal, and maybe some people don't know how to program them. Perhaps that is the real issue.

With T5's, everything is manual, and you have to change bulbs to get the look you want. And you have to keep changing bulbs, over and over....

So, each to their own, I guess...
i hear ya, see that might be my difference is that, im using the ai sol blues ( b,rb,w) where u are using caddilacs compared to my fiat hahaha.
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i hear ya, see that might be my difference is that, im using the ai sol blues ( b,rb,w) where u are using caddilacs compared to my fiat hahaha.
Our current TOTM is running AI Sol blues too, fyi. Just sayin'
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Old 11-28-2013, 03:40 PM
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Our current TOTM is running AI Sol blues too, fyi. Just sayin'

hmm that tank looks very nice, well s^&t must be my configuration.

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i hear ya, see that might be my difference is that, im using the ai sol blues ( b,rb,w) where u are using caddilacs compared to my fiat hahaha.
Yes, I have seen some AI lighted tanks, and didn't really like them. They have a lot of blue/purple and don't look very natural. And don't bring out the red and green as well. But that's just my personal opinion. I know others will differ.
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Our current TOTM is running AI Sol blues too, fyi. Just sayin'
Yeah, but there is a lot more to his tank, than just the lights!!... You could put almost any lights over that one, and it would still be TOTM. I have seen it in person a few times, and no pics can do it justice.
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Yeah, but there is a lot more to his tank, than just the lights!!... You could put almost any lights over that one, and it would still be TOTM. I have seen it in person a few times, and no pics can do it justice.
However, and this is what got me going, his frag tank coral colors are much nicer than the DT. Running T5.

The problem is not tuning LED, or them not growing corals or providing really nice color, I just get nicer coral color from T5. Hardly noticeable, but to me, noticeable. The aesthetic look of the tank was also very pleasing with LED. But, with T5, I get all that plus another couple percentage points on SPS color scale. I've never claimed LED were not really good, just not really good enough for my SPS in my tank.
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I don't want to change anyone's mind here, but I sure don't understand some of the comments about LEDs. I had T5s before, and couldn't imagine going back.

Re color with LEDs. I don't get it. With mine (Radions) I can choose whatever I want. They can be preprogramed on the computer, and then choose them with the touch of a button on the lights. I have blue, royal blue, red, green and white lights that I can tune the mix and intensities of each in a program. If I want the corals to glow, I can do that. I actually prefer the natural look, which is my default.

I do have a special program that only uses white light that I can use for taking coral pics, which then gets rid of that purple/blue effect without having to adjust the white balance. That takes the press of just one button on my lights.

I can even program the lights to be different in different regions of my tank. And there is a huge choice of programs you can import, too. Some claim superior growth. Some just for looks.

As for growth, my SPS is doing great. And I have great color, too.

I'm sure all LEDs are not equal, and maybe some people don't know how to program them. Perhaps that is the real issue.

With T5's, everything is manual, and you have to change bulbs to get the look you want. And you have to keep changing bulbs, over and over....

So, each to their own, I guess...
I agree Walter, I use AI's and get great coral color and when you can set the intensity for each channel during the day to evening is a total plus. I would never go back to t5's. But then again opinions are like
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Old 11-28-2013, 04:03 PM
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I use AI's and get great coral color and when you can set the intensity for each channel during the day to evening is a total plus.
And that is the main thing I miss with T5, not having that control. However, with a bit of tweaking and LED supplementation, I think I can have the best of both.
For the money I spent (and lost), looking back I should have gone with the ATI hybrid. Or vented the house and stayed with MH
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