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			 JL having this on sale for $128.00 (backordered). I think I should order two of this. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 Yup, that is a darn good price for a pump like that. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 For me the main advantages are space, mess and noise. Tank upstairs is dead quiet, I'm yet to spill a single drop of water on the main floor, and underneath and around the tank doesn't resemble a nuclear reactor. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	One of the main disadvantages of basement sumps is the extra head pressure so my setup is a little different from others to minimize this. The main pump sits in the top sump which feeds the display while a smaller pump circulates water from the base sump to the other three. The result is about 7 feet of vertical head on the main circulation pump and a combined wattage of less than 100W to pump over 1000GPH to the display. I built my sump room into a pantry that I will likely convert into a wine cellar if/when we sell the house. It's not done yet, once I figure out all the equipment I want to run I'll rework the plumbing and electrical so it's more organized. ![]() ![]()  | 
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			 Just so you know, they also make a Sedra KSP 30000 pump (3000 gph). Not sure if J&L sells it, but you might want to ask them, in case you want more power. They don't always list everything they carry. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 Thank you Reef Pilot. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 What kind of return pump(s) do you guys need to use to get through the head pressure of 12+ feet? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	I called a very well known vendor and was told that the Sedra 20000 can't handle 12 ft of head.  | 
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 The Sedra box it came in specifies 23' max head and uses 200 watts. I notice this is different than some of the specs I have read on the internet. Maybe this is a newer model that has been upgraded. To contrast, here are the Mag pump specs. Note that you have to go all the way up to a Mag 36 to get 23' of head. The Mag 18 and 24 stop at 20'. http://www.marinedepot.com/Danner_Ma...WPSBTO-vi.html 
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			 We used the Reeflo Barracuda too. However a large Iwaki or Panworld would also work well. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 Of course the Sedra 20000 is backordered everywhere I look and I needed a new return pump 5 days ago. Go figure  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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