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Old 12-24-2003, 04:41 AM
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My tank is leaking. From what I can see, it is both front corner seams, the leak is slow (5 Gal/day - 92 gallon tank), I have drained as much water as I can without disturbing the livestock in the tank too much.

And, it is still leaking. I am going to have to remove everything in my tank.

How difficult will it be to move the contents of Broken tank directly into a new tank? Is this a viable option? Or do i have to rubbermaid everything whilst I play around with attempting to repait the broken tank?

Any help would be appreciated.

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Old 12-24-2003, 06:52 AM
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you could certainly move the stuff into a new tank, but usually the new tank needs to sit where the old one presently sits. That's where the tubs come in. Are you sure it's leaking? Is there water running down the sides? My tank loses 5g/day from evaporation.
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Old 12-24-2003, 01:47 PM
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Definately leaking, the floor and the under neathe of the tank are wet, and it is 5 gallons more that what would normally be expected to evaporate.

Why would the new tank have to sit where the old is?
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Old 12-24-2003, 02:21 PM
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The new tank certainly doesn't need to sit were the old one is. Just most people may not have a second choice or water and other things are handy were the original tank is.

Having had two leaks myself, and two replacements I would check your tank warranty. No sense paying for a new tank if you don't have to. I have also heard of 2 people who had their tank replaced even after the warranty ran out.

If you have the option moving your inhabitant directly to the new tank would be best. But you will still need buckets. If you are going to use the same sand it will need time to settle and this may be a good time to add more or clean what you have. Stirring up a sand bed can be deadly.

Just out of curiosity what size and who makes your current Tank?

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Old 12-24-2003, 03:44 PM
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92 gallon All-Glass. i emailed themabout the problem, but havent recieved a reply as of yet, be it as it is the Christmas season, I am really not expecting much in the short term =)

About how long do you think I should let the sand bed settle in the new tank? Prior to adding everything?

Live rock shortly after I would imagine, about a week for other inhabitants?
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Old 12-24-2003, 04:35 PM
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I'm going to write from experience. I'm sure there will be many that will feel that my info is wrong, but this is what I did, not out of knowledge but out of panic.

I will combine both leaks.

Back seem slit 5:30am. Removed all LR into 2 Rubber maid Garbage cans.
Removed all coral into shallow rubber maid container.
Removed 5 fish (one Tang) into 10G tank
Inverts went into Coral tank
Sand into garbage pail

New tank arrived in two weeks. That two weeks with a tang, 3 Chromis and a Blenny in a 10G. Amolock was used but Ammonia levels were through the roof the entire time. (AmoLock makes Ammonia less deadly to fish but will not effect the readings from test kits)

New tank arrived. Wet tested for a couple of hours
added new water (About 20G) brought up to temp and added salt.
Added sand Ran power heads and Skinner plus some filter floss.
Next Day added LR and water from LR buckets. Drained some of the New water out.
Next Day added Coral and Fish. Zero Losses.

I must admit I got lucky. The fish I had during both mishaps I still have today. 9 Months later. All coral I had then I also have today. One Shrimp was lost several days after


As you could expect I don't sleep very well anymore. Always one ear on the tank.

I hope this helps some what. The only advise I can offer is to try and slow down. I was always in a panic trying to get the poor fish out of that dam 10G. If you have the time to do things right or make improvements to your system this is the best time to do it.

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Old 12-31-2003, 02:59 AM
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Ok picking up the new tank tommorow. It is pre drilled, unlike the cursed one I have now, but thats an improvement I am happy for.

My problem is: LFS says that I need a new filter ( a trickle filter, not canister) and pump, and pluming, lalala etc.

How much of this can I get away with NOT buying for the interum? I was planning on switching my fish over to the *ecosystem* at the end of the month ....

Any help would be great! Thank you all muchly, and BTW - AG tanks were wonderful about the entire thing =) Very profesional.

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Old 12-31-2003, 03:06 AM
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Well I would say you don't need any type of filter. You have a sump? Skimmer? LR? and an active sand bed. I'd say your set.
Never had a filter in my system

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Is this a reef? If so, you don't need a trickle filter. All you need is a sump (rubbermaids work well) and a return pump. You connect it all together with pvc pipe.
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If your worried about the new pump ect to run a sump, just cap the overflow pipe for right now until you get the rest of your setup. Run it as a sumpless system for the time being. Not sure if that's what you meant or not. I did ths on my current system for the first month till i got everything sorted out.

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