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			 Hello all ... I have a friend who has a tank and was asking if he could drill a tank that is full he is new to the hobby and wasnt sure of a sump but now he wants one.... i think i already know the answer  but i thought i would ask anyways ...... Thanks  
		
	
		
		
		
		
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			 Its difficult but not totally impossible. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 The drill bit should remain wet when cutting through glass so he should empty the tank, place it on it front pane, and drill on the back with a reservoir of some water around the hole site. I usually use some clay to make a circular "dam" around the spot I'm drilling. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 To ensure the glass is not tempered view it with polarizing sun glasses.  If it is tempered, a pattern will appear, no pattern and it is safe to drill. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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 I've drilled a few tanks half full, but I wouldn't recommend it. Much better in the long run to start over.  | 
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			 ok thanks for the replys 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			if he decides to drill i will post results with pics 
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			 I have drilled my tank, but did it empty.  Used my Dremel to do it.  :P  That is Youtube worthy.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	    20G Non Tempered tho.  I have heard you can do Tempered, but not recommended.  Maybe ask your friend if he wants fish on the floor if the tank breaks. ![]()  | 
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			 You can not drill tempered. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 I drilled a 160 gallon half full about 5 years ago and to this day the tank is still running fine.  It was too big of a tank to take down so that was kind of our only option.  Just sprayed water on it to keep the bit cool.  Hope that this helps.  Ideally though, empty is good.  I just drilled my tank empty but not with a dam because I got give wrong hole size dimension, so I had to crawl into the tank and drill the vertical pane.  I used one hand to drill and the other to spray water.  It was 1/2" glass. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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