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			 Hi, I was wondering about using pvc pipe to create rock structures with. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	I have seen some set ups use this methood. Can anyone give me some advice/tips on the best way to go about it? Thank-you for your help.  | 
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			 drill and zip ties.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	   i think a lot of it depends on what kind of general structuring you're looking for.  For example, there are pinnacles, islands, arches and overhangs, just to name a few.  Personally Ive been interested of late in midwater suspended rock structues. | 
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			 Is there a special type of zip ties to use or will any kind do? My idea is to create caves for the fish to hide in. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 make sure the zap straps are either stainless steel latch (the little thing that makes the clicking sound) or all plastic, some cheaper ones use a spring steel clip that will rust away,  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	also the white ones are not UV resistant black ones are so your lights wiill degrade them over time unless they are black.  | 
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			 personally, I would stick witht he plastic ones.  The black ones would probably be a bit less visible too rather than the stark white zip ties.  Over time they would probably get covered in all sorts of sessile invertebrates and algae, so i don't think UV would be a problem. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 plus even if its stainless steel, its not going to be high-grade SS16 so it will probably rust away 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 Personally I'm a fan of this idea from some guy in RC: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			![]() ![]() ![]() you make make 4-5 of these in a big tank and join them together with bridge pieces in between. 
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			 Hi I used a black milk crate that I modified to make a cave then used the large black plastic zip ties, you can not see any of it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 http://www.canreef.com/photopost/dat..._FOR_SALON.jpg 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	The great thing about a crate is you can cut it down and make what ever shape your wanting and it is very strong.In the picture I made a cave as you can see. paul  |