upside down gramma

[kwirky]

The royal gramma I got last week is still swimming upside down within the rockwork. He comes out for food about 6" from the rocks and stays upside down. could this be something wrong with the fish or because of the bottom being painted white? maybe he's confused which way is up because of it?

When I first got him I figured I'd give a week to see how it goes and now that it's a week I'm wondering if it's permanent.

[Myka]

I've seen this happen with different Basslets and Dottybacks. It's a swim bladder issue. They come from deeper waters, and some have difficulties adjusting to shallow water. They need to go through a decompression when being collected, and sometimes this is too hurried. Their swim bladders are used to the pressure of the deep water, and in the shallow waters of our aquariums sometimes their swim bladders become bloated from lack of pressure. Apparently you can try to treat them by using a pin to pop them...but I wouldn't try it.

[kwirky]

Originally Posted by Myka

I've seen this happen with different Basslets and Dottybacks. It's a swim bladder issue. They come from deeper waters, and some have difficulties adjusting to shallow water. They need to go through a decompression when being collected, and sometimes this is too hurried. Their swim bladders are used to the pressure of the deep water, and in the shallow waters of our aquariums sometimes their swim bladders become bloated from lack of pressure. Apparently you can try to treat them by using a pin to pop them...but I wouldn't try it.

had a feeling it was some sort of swim bladder issue. thanks for seconding the opinion. I don't know if I'd try popping it with a needle myself either. I'll see how it goes

[banditpowdercoat]

I have read that thats completely normal with Gramma's. They swim on all angles. But completely upsode down.. I am waiting till OA's Grammas are ready, should be this week and then one will come live with me

[Myka]

Originally Posted by kwirky

had a feeling it was some sort of swim bladder issue. thanks for seconding the opinion. I don't know if I'd try popping it with a needle myself either. I'll see how it goes

I just realised that I assumed the fish's belly was bloated. Is it? Can you post a pic?

[Scavenger]

I am curious about the swimming upside down you described. If the fish is swimming with his belly toward the nearest structure. ie rock, sand, glass etc. THIS IS NORMAL behaviour for a gramma. My gramma would only swim "upright" in the open areas of the tank for the most part. When close to a rock or any other object, it would aline it's belly to that object. I suspect it's due to their tendency to hang out in caves, arches etc.

[dogboy]

It is normal for them to act this way... my gramma swims upside down about 50% of the time... the rest of the time it swims at alot of other odd angles.... nothing to worry about...

[Nate]

Hey Sean,

Completely normal, I have a gramma that I have had for like 4 years, and he spends 90 % of his time upsidedown in "his arch". Grammas are often found in overhangs in the ocean, and are often searching the ceilings for food/shelter, sean if he is eating he is good

Lets make sure we are giving proper information people, if you are not sure what you are talking about...dont jump the gun

[Pier Pressure]

That does not sound normal to me if he is swimming upside down in open water, i.e. coming out to get food upside down. Mine spends most of its time hanging upside down in a rock cave, but when she comes out to eat she does it right side up like any other fish.

[Nate]

I think that that would have a lot to do with the competition for food as well in a tank...seans tank is young, so he is likely not feeding many fish, and feeding fairly lightly...coming off the rock that far is not uncommon, and I have about 15 royal grammas in all of the tanks I maintain and they all have similar activities...either way, I would not sweat it Sean, sounds pretty normal