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[Veng68]

Well....... if it was a change in life cycle of the ich........ you will get the ich back in 2-3 weeks.

Cheers,
Vic [veng68]

[michika]

Originally Posted by Salmon King

I am not a rookie in this hobby and would not kill or torture a fish.One thing I know if fish and the diseases that come with them.I have been in the saltwater fish since 1994.I f I do a exsperiment I am not going to kill a fish or make one suffer.The ick on all the fish disappeared after this power outage.Mabe it was this maybe not and all i hear is people talking about there magic garlic . . Iam not going to torture a fish with garlic hoping this snake oil cures it.The only known cure for ick is copper.If you grill you local pet store they will admit this even if they sell you these other snake oils.

My point was not in reference to garlic at all. I'm just saying that setting up an experiment to test your theory would be extremely challenging. The need to account for and control all the confounding variables would easily be your downfall.

It doesn't matter how long you've been in the hobby, or what some pet store employee says. You need to research for yourself, things need to be backed up with tested facts. If your only response to support for a product is your experience, or what someone else said, it doesn't inspire much belief in your claims.

[Salmon King]

Originally Posted by michika

My point was not in reference to garlic at all. I'm just saying that setting up an experiment to test your theory would be extremely challenging. The need to account for and control all the confounding variables would easily be your downfall.

It doesn't matter how long you've been in the hobby, or what some pet store employee says. You need to research for yourself, things need to be backed up with tested facts. If your only response to support for a product is your experience, or what someone else said, it doesn't inspire much belief in your claims.

In the beggining I didnt say power outages worked.One thing I did research garlic like I said in the other post on ich.You ask any pet store inB.C if garlic is a cure for ick they say no.I have asked many marine biologests and they say no.They should feed farm raised salmon garlic and there would be no more protests and they would probally taste better.

[justinl]

salmon dont get ich. they get sea lice.

we dont need to hear that garlic doesnt cure ich... we know. what garlic does is make food taste better. eating fish are less stressed and therefore less prone to succumbing to an outbreak of ich. stressed fish have weakened immune systems and are therefore more prone to ich. it's been stated before.

dont get so defensive, read what michika wrote carefully. the experiment you're implying that you want to conduct is a) morally unethical and b) very difficult to run properly. unless you can show us a solid scientific approach and basis to conduct this experiment, you wont see much slack from us in this thread.

[Salmon King]

Lice and ich are both parasites

[Canuckgod420]

wow your an absrassive *edited*
no one hear is saying that garlic is the cure all for ich....
but i'll bet my entire reef that power outages dont cure a damn thing.....
I've used garlic for three years now and have had a grand total of 1 fish with ich.....and i've even suffered through a crash that killed all my corals, but not 1 fish died...and the ich never came back.

[Doug]

Please refrain from personal attacks.
Thanks

[Canuckgod420]

I'm not attacking anyone on a personel level.....he IS being abrassive.

[Salmon King]

http://www.health-reports.com/allicin.html
Read this from albert doa

[albert_dao]

Errrr, I don't think you took into proper context what I posted.

My thoughts were that most commercial garlic products do not contain an active allicin ingredient. I'm not implying that garlic doesn't do anything, but rather that commercial garlic products aren't working as we're hoping they do.