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12-21-2002, 03:43 AM
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interesting advice. i drive a 92 2 door jetta, it's been great for the 10 months or so i've had it. i have no doubt that vw quality is dropping though, they're owned by ford now, after all.
did you know that a new muffler for a mclaren f1 is $15,000 US? 
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12-22-2002, 07:39 PM
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Owned by Ford????????
Where did you hear that one from. VAG owns VW, Audi, Seat, Skoda,Lamborgini, Bugatti and Bentlley(?)couple of others too I think. Fourth largest auto manufacturer in the world. Never heard of them being owned by Ford though. :? I'll have to post this on some of the VW boards I go to and see what they have to say.
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12-22-2002, 10:18 PM
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Dale D
I think ford does own controling stock in the parent company but they alow them to operate independent.. not sure but I know Ford have controling stock in Lamborgini, which would make sence that they own the parent company and this is how they have there intrest in Lamborgini. the big 3 have been running around the world buying up large chunks of every company.. I would be surprised if there are many left that aren't majority owned by one of them. as for Skota, are they still around? I was given one and I couldent find parts anywhare in NA and when I e-mailed the Skota in the chek republic they gave me the impression they are no longer in the car market...  so I gave the car awaySteve
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12-22-2002, 10:18 PM
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I second Dale's comments... As far as I know (and I'm both a Ford and VW fan) Ford has no ownership in VW.
And you forgot to mention Porsche is also under VAG's umbrella! 8)
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12-22-2002, 11:33 PM
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Skoda's still around. They even have a WRC team. Their cars (Octavia etc) are pretty much just rebadged VW's I think. They've come along way from the rolling pieces of crap they produced in the 70's and 80's.
In the last 20 years I think just about everyone has owned Lamborgini at one time or another. Now VW does. Ford owns Aston Martin, Jaguar, a large piece of Mazda and bunch of others. I think at one time in the 90's they took a look at VW, but, it never went any farther. I don't think there is any official connection between VW and Porsche besides the family connection with Dr. Porsche. This comes up on VW boards alot and they are thought to be 2 seperate manufacturers. Porsche as well as Lotus have aways done alot of design work for other auto manufacturers.
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12-23-2002, 02:48 AM
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Hi,
Ford doesn't own significant stock of either VW or Lamborghini. In fact, Lamborghini is under Audi and VW owns 99% of Audi. Ford has a market cap of 18 Billion, while VW has a market cap of 17 billion. If Ford had any involvement with VW....it would be a big merger. Porsche has a market cap of 9 billion. Ford also owns Volvo and Land Rover. Ford owns 33% of Mazda stock. Porsche AG is independent, but they do a lot of design work for other companies. In particular, they had a previous relationship with VW and Mercedes AMG. Hope that helps. - Victor.
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