Ebay refractometer curse

[Richy44]

Ebay...now that is true international competition. I like that! Not some conjured up "forced" supply and demand BS that has become the norm here in Canada.

Yes the price is cheaper in the US, but if you add this that this that again plus this and that and this "It ends up the same anyways" So you may as well just buy it in Canada for double the price. .......................................bite lip.

Ok Rich...get off the soapbox.......Cheers

Richy............

[Delphinus]

I would guess the vast majority of ebayyers are a fairly honest bunch. The few times I've bought or sold on ebay it's been perfectly straightforward.

I have a few rants though..

1) Particularly more so lately than when it first came up, it's just hard to bid on an item anymore. With people sniping auctions or online agents or what. I'll think I'm happily at the top bid on an item for like a week or two, then suddenly get outbid in the last 30 seconds. Not cool.

2) Paypal. Man everything is just paypal this or paypal that these days. Argh! As a former victim of identity theft (hoo yeah, nothing like having collection agencies call you at 2 in the morning to verbally abuse you .. "Do you LIKE being negligent on your bills?" "For crying out loud it's 2AM AND YOU HAVE THE WRONG PEOPLE!" "Oh yeah right" .. ), I *refuse* to hand over my banking info over to a company that's based in a different country than where I live. And their little extortion tactic to force to me do so (ie. $1000 spending limit, doesn't matter if I pay the bills, it just goes down and down), is just incomprehensibly vile and offensive to me. It used to be the case that Canadians could get their coveted "validated" status by using a codeword on a CC statement, but not anymore. Well ... They can rot, if it was good enough for my friends to get validated that way, but not for me nowadays .. then they can take their service and stuff it. I just wish there was another way... I figure I'll have to sign up for a disposable bank account and sign over the info to that one to get my status. I just have to .. well you know .. actually go and do that some day.

Oh well. I do enjoy looking at some of the junk that goes up for sale on that site. Lots of cool stuff there.


Have you thought about checking J&L or Ocean Aquatics for a refractometer?

[Fish]

Tony,

I haven't had a problem with paypal yet but I guess that may change, depending on how they deal with this issue.
I have a lead right now on a new refractometer from a canreef member - that will probably be the safest way to go. I can feel Rich's frustration though - I too have seen drygoods before at the LFS or a Canadian site that were twice as much as what the same item cost online in the States. I don't know why it's that way, but I suspect there are legitimate reasons for it. I was tempted into the ebay purchases by the fact that I could get a refractometer from China, and after shipping it here and paying exchange, it was still way cheaper than buying a refractometer locally.
I know that supporting local business is important but I was never one to throw away money just for the sake of doing that. Maybe that's hurting myself in the end though; if all our LFS's dissapeared, it would be real tough to get livestock... I sure miss being able to stop at Big Als here in the South.

- Chad

[Richy44]

I just set up a separate visa and bank account strictly for Ebay purchases and the like. If they can scam my 1k go ahead but that is all they get...They dont get rich and doesnt break me. Havent had a problen yet...tap.tap. If I need more than 1K, I just tell the bank to up my limit for this one transaction only. Works great for me. Yes as a whole, it has been a very good experience for me.

Delphinus...do you play cards? You show your hand to early.

Figure what you want to pay and bid in the last 30 seconds..simple..thats it! That is the way it is done!

Snip a few of your own!

Rich..............

[Johnny Reefer]

Originally Posted by Delphinus

.... Have you thought about checking J&L or Ocean Aquatics for a refractometer?

There ya go.

Originally Posted by Fish

... by shopping on the internet.

I'm not against shopping on the internet. Heck, the first (and only, admittingly) time I shopped online was for a small clock from Mountain Equipment Co-op. I placed the order on a SATURDAY and the following Monday morning there was a knock on my door with said item. And this was before MEC was in Victoria and the closest outlet was Vancouver. Maybe this is small potatoes, but I was truly impressed and am surprised that I haven't shopped online since, ....although I intend to..., BUT...from reputable companies/vendors I trust. I'm not keen on giving out information when I'm not really sure who is getting that information or what they intend to do with it. Not sure it's worth it. JMO.

EDIT: I just don't understand the sophistication of the whole cyberspace/web thing and am reluctant to take risks as a result, which isn't such a bad thing, I suppose.

Cheers,

[Richy44]

You should never give your information to any vendor you dont know. That is why PayPal was created so Vendors dont have acess to your information. Most purchases through paypal and with your credit card are mostly insured anyways..

Rich........

[Johnny Reefer]

Originally Posted by Richy44

.... Most purchases through paypal and with your credit card are mostly insured anyways..

Key words being "Most" and "mostly" as opposed to "all". Enough to keep this skeptic skeptical. I suppose it's all relative, however. I mean,... given a choice between paying $49.99 to Johnny PawnBroker for a used corded 1/2" drill and $69.99 to Home Depot for a brand new one, well....I think I'd wish Johnny a good day and move on. There's risk everywhere. Just gotta use judgement .

Cheers,

[Richy44]

I like your attitude..

Rich.......

[Joe Reefer]

Originally Posted by Johnny Reefer

There's risk everywhere. Just gotta use judgement .

Cheers,

Right on the money!

[Fish]

Mark I agree totally. Risk management is the very reason that I use Paypal... first of all, it is the internet equivalent of your 'home depot' example. Secondly, it allows me to keep all my info in one place, shielded from any other buyer I deal with. If I could, I would use Paypal to pay for every real life purchase that I made too. It is not the "business" that is going to fraudulantly use your credit card info, it is the "person" behind the till. Everytime I eat at a restaurant, I lose sight of my card when the waitress takes it away. I don't usually know what that person's background is, how long they've worked there, if their disgruntled etc. I'd expect that paypal has stricter security controls than your average retailer because their reputation for security is what is worth the most to them. Even if they had the opportunity to steal a million dollars from me, that is a paltry sum to them and would not be worth the damage to their reputation.

- Chad