WarDog's Tank Thread : Episodic Trial And Error

[Bblinks]

Originally Posted by WarDog

Lol, don't sweat it. We're still friends!

So this weekend.....

[WarDog]

Originally Posted by Bblinks

So this weekend.....

Hell ya... you had me at 'so'. Lol.

Wait... did you mean the 120? Ummmm, no.

[Wretch]

Maybe you can just setup another 65 right next to the current one? run to the same sump and have a sorta 130? or is the 120 a better idea?

[WarDog]

I kinda like the idea of dual 65's.

[Bblinks]

Originally Posted by WarDog

I kinda like the idea of dual 65's.

Dual 120 or just a 210....ready to go!

[Wretch]

Gotta think custom Warren. Everyones stuff now is custom. Even I asked for a custom tank quote from concepts.

[WarDog]

The last Clown seems to be weathering the storm. He ate no problem, but still acts a bit off. I'll let you kids have a look and tell me what you think.





Tested today just to be sure I didn't overlook something. All seems ok.

[gregzz4]

Hey, cool paper spreadsheet. Did you steal that idea from someone too ?

I don't think I've ever seen velvet on marine fish, but that looks like waaay tooo much powder to be MI.
But if it is velvet you'd expect it to be dead by now.
If it is MI, it looks to me like it's cycled more than once or twice.

Hopefully others with more long-term experience will chime in.

In the meantime, good luck W

[Roskoreef]

oh man do i ever feel for you, I feel like we have had very similar tank issues... Dry rock, zeovit and my acros started stning, then i also had an ick outbreak from an emporer angel i added (dumb fish to add to a reef tank btw) that killed over 13 fish and quick 1000 bucks. Several tangs, clownfish, mandarins(prob not ich but weird timing), 10 chromis 1 by 1, it was awful. After about 12 days there was my coris wrasse and 3 chromis that seems to be doing just fine.

I had planned on going fallow but couldnt catch the coris...so i just left it alone for a good month. I recently started to add fish again...

Ich is still present in my tank, for sure, but none of my fish I have added have died. I beleive that feeding well and have a very good source of oxygen for the water ( i added another exteral skimmer) keeps fish healthy and heavy oxygen is hard for ich parasites to thrive. My fish show some spots here and there in the evening, but by mid day they are all ich free it seems. so far i have added 15 chromis, a yellow eye tang, mellanarus wrasse, male and female bird wrasse and several anthias..All relatively hardy except for the tang..

Im still not going to QT anymore but i now realise that great husbandy and hardy fish with well oxygenated water is the way i am going to deal with ich.

[gregzz4]

I use a QT. I'm not against the TT method, nor am I against adding fish directly to a DT. I just don't do it 'cause for me it's too risky. And because I QT everything I lose about 20% of my fish, but I've never lost one that was added to my DT due to being new to the tank.
I'm sure people who add fish directly to their DTs lose at least 20% of their new fish, so isn't it relative ?
QT does not kill fish, reefers kill fish ...
A proper QT setup can support almost any new fish, IMHO.
Now we'll hear the arguments about it after this post ...

On the other side of the fence with Rosco's comments in mind ...
MI apparently cycles itself out after approx 11 months.
So in Rosco's situation, if he added no new critters of any kind for 1 year he could potentially be MI free.
Then he could use a TTMethod or QT to keep his DT MI free.

Then there's the concern about Tomonts coming into the tank with 'stuff'.
They can be on anything wet. So what do you do ?
Even though I QT everything, I've given up worrying about the small things (thanks Brad).
I dip new corals, don't do anything beyond acclimation with shrimps and crabs, and for 3 years my tank appears to be MI free. Knock on wood.

So many choices ...

Then, if you do QT, what protocol do you employ ?
Aargh, this hobby is so much fun.
Aren't you glad you took it up, instead of basket weaving ?
I'll bet you could have had some awesome embroideries for sale by now at the local market

Then, what if it truly is Velvet ? As I said earlier, it's beyond my experience so I can't diagnose/recognize it. But if it is ....
Well, then you need to keep some chloroquine phosphate on hand, and I happen to have some if you need it ...