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Old 08-15-2014, 04:00 PM
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This would be only relative assuming your not using prodibio at all at the moment.
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Old 08-15-2014, 05:24 PM
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Ok I phrased it all wrong. I am sedtup for an ULNS as I have biopellets w/ output into one of my skimmers and dose a small amount of vinegar every aswell through a doser. I still have .1 Phos and around 5-10 Nitrates. I find when my notrates get that high corals don't pop as much as they normally do. I would like to boost my carbon sources output if that is possible. BioDigest??
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Old 08-15-2014, 05:25 PM
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FOrgot ot say that biopellets have been runnnig for 6+ months and vinegar for around 1.5months
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Old 08-15-2014, 05:33 PM
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Not a fan of bio pellets, but that being said

The carbon source of Prodibio is BioPtim.
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Ok I phrased it all wrong. I am sedtup for an ULNS as I have biopellets w/ output into one of my skimmers and dose a small amount of vinegar every aswell through a doser. I still have .1 Phos and around 5-10 Nitrates. I find when my notrates get that high corals don't pop as much as they normally do. I would like to boost my carbon sources output if that is possible. BioDigest??
Sure you can add tht if you wish , if after 6mths your not getting low enough no3 with pellets and vinegar then threes something a miss.

How many mls are you adding daily and how much pellets are in the reactor?

What size skimmer do yo use and what size system.

If it we me I would ditch the pellets and either go the full prodibio route or supplement your existing bcteria source with another carbon source.

Unfortunately with any system if you over feed , done have adequate size equipment or misuse the products then they will not work properly.

With no3 at 5ppm I would lower my po4 with gfo while slowly adding more vinegar , the risk is the pellets as we don't know what they re doing at this time, so because of the uncertainty of what the pellets are doing at the moment I would proceed slowly or remove them , in the grand scheme of things it's not efficient to run all these methods nor is it cost wise and can run into serious risks that are hard to recover form.
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Not a fan of bio pellets, but that being said

The carbon source of Prodibio is BioPtim.
Neither am I , they work great at removing no3 but from a control point of view and logging point of view they are all over the place and hard to predict.
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Neither am I , they work great at removing no3 but from a control point of view and logging point of view they are all over the place and hard to predict.
A new version of bio-pellet is out to take care of that (called all-in-one BP) :P

Anyways, I don't know why you are using two different source of carbons (bio-pellet + vinegar). Eventually, someone will start feeding cyano if I am not wrong. Use a carbon source (biopellet/vinegar/bioptim) and a bacteria source (mb7/biodigest). And I prefer to follow one program instead of mixing different ones. If you want to use prodibio, go full prodibio; if you want to use biopellets, cut off the vinegar and use mb7.
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Due to a surge in up take of Prodibio I thought important to re post this

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So here is it, the long awaited guide to all things ProdiBio, what makes Prodibio so unique and easy to use, in fact without doubt the easiest and most effective low nutrient system.

So first lets talk about the simplicity of the system
Prodibio due to the elements used and way it is made allows for the user to only dose every two weeks and without the need for any form of equipment or reactors. Each element comes in a nitrogen sealed glass vial, which also gives the product a very long shelf life, no risk of bacteria dying off.

It is 100% impossible to over dose other than create some over skimming and uses only natural extracts. Prodibio time and time again has proven to be one of the most effective systems on the market that also can be mixed with other concepts.

The system has 3 main elements.
BioDigest
BioPtim &
Reefbooster

BioDigest
Biodigest is your bacterial source much like any other ULNS you have to have a plentiful supply of bacterial strains to eat up those bad nutrients. Where prodibio differs is that they use a chain of different strains, one strain starting off where the other left so you get a dosing window of two weeks. No other system allows you to dose that far apart.

BioPtim
This is your carbon source as found in many other ULN systems. The difference is again you only dose every two weeks. BioPtim contains a multitude of essentials additives for feeding the bacterial colony in your system and in doing so lowering your nitrates and PO4 levels.

ReefBooster.
This is your coral and critter food source containing a long line of additives including a very potent mix of omega 3 fatty acids and amino acids.

The Big question - Dosing
There are two concepts here which has led to confusion on the past and we hope this will eliminate that from now on

Can I combine with other systems?
As mentioned above yes you can but for ease of dosing and the non requirement of equipment we strongly suggest the use of Both Biodigest and BioPtim in place of any other similar product such as bio medias and daily dosing systems. From there you can choose to use the one shot ReefBooster or mix with other coral enhancing additives from the likes of Tropic Marin or ZeoVit. Many ZeoVit users actually use Prodibio bacteria and carbon source instead due to the low maintenance required.

Maintenance dosing
If you already have a low nutrient system or low nutrients and everything is in check then your dosing is as follows

Biodigest = 1 vial UP TO but not exceeding 250 gallons, you can not over dose Biodigest so if you have a 50 gallon tank you still dose 1 vial every two weeks, however if you have a 300 gallon tank you would dose 2 vials.

BioPtim = 1 vial every two weeks for every 50 gallon of water irrelevant of anything else this is a fixed ratio. 1 vial to 50 gallons, so if you have 200 gallons you would dose 4 vials. Simple maths.

Reefbooster = This must only be added when you have a mature ULN system and can handle the addition of amino acids, the ratio is 1 vial per 50 gallon, just as with BioPtim, however I personally suggest starting off with 1 vial and building up, you will know when you have peaked as the skimmer you turned off to dose and left off for 24 hours will go nuts when switching back on if you dosed too much.

When dosing is not as above.
THE only time dosing will differ than above is if you are starting off at a high level of nutrients and need to get them down, then the dosing of ONLY Biodigest changes.

High nutrients = 1 vial of Biodigest for every 50 gallons, you do not change the bioPtim ratio. This dosing is maintained until your nutrients are within range of ULN systems. at that point you change the dosing back to 1 vial per 250 gallon.

BioClean product
As the name suggest this product is a one box supply of all the elements you need to lower your nutrients, it contains both BioDigest and BioPtim in equal ration. Why equal? Because you are lowering nutrients so the above example of 1 vial of BioDigest per 50 gallons applies. Once your nutrients are down as mentioned above you then lower your BioDigest to 250/1

StartUP
This is by far the highest seller of the range, ProdiBio Start up is ideal for starting new tanks up and allowing for the hardiest fish to be introduced within 12 hours of starting the system. StartUp uses a plant extract ammonia lock no chemicals used. its natural formula locks and holds ammonia until it can be exported, the addition of Biodigest at a high dosing ratio then swiftly colonizes your filtration system. The system time and time again has proven to be a life saver for aquarium stores and for those experiencing ammonia spikes for various reasons.

So thats Prodibio broken down into its elements, as you can see plain and simple the system is designed for little maintenance, easy understanding of dosing and by far one of the leading ULN systems on the market.

if you have any questions please post here, and I urge everyone even if using other forms of ULN systems to just try it so you see how easy and effective this brillaint system really is.
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BioPtim = 1 vial every two weeks for every 50 gallon of water irrelevant of anything else this is a fixed ratio. 1 vial to 50 gallons, so if you have 200 gallons you would dose 4 vials. Simple maths.
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so if i have 80 gallon i use 1.5 vials, or follow manufacturer site and use 2?
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use two you can not over dose but if lightly stocked see how you go with one
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