Hairy Cyano like algae toxic?

[paddyob]

FML.

From crash to burn.

[paddyob]

At least I only have two corals.... a sinularia and rbta,

If I had corals the game would be that much tougher.

[Myka]

Oh that will make your life much easier. Do you have a QT you can move the RBTA and the one coral to? You don't want to move them into another system as they may transfer the dinos. If you can move them all out you can leave the lights off on the tank for 2 weeks for the entire treatment. Make sure you cover the tank with a blanket or something so that it is PITCH BLACK in there. Could you also move the fish? If you move the fish then you don't have to worry about spiking pH by accident or low oxygen levels.

[paddyob]

Moving the fish would be tough.

The only tanks I have running are my breeder tanks. Might not be good move.

Aeration I think can be accomPlished maybe by fuge light? Skimmer? Power heads?

[Myka]

When you're trying to keep the pH unusually high you will lower it by aerating too much - just the opposite of how you can raise pH by aerating saltwater with low pH. Messing with pH sucks, and this is one of the few times I suggest a person does mess with it. Having the fish out of the tank just means less risk to them, but don't for any reason ever move outside fish into your broodstock systems. This treatment can be done with the fish in the tank, just be diligent with your pH testing and watch the fish for signs of oxygen deprivation - especially during the black out period.

[paddyob]

Here is a question....

What if I slowly clean a couple rocks OUTSIDE the tank first. Say 2-3 pieces a day. Scrub clean in salt water bucket. Or fresh? Then replace. Maybe to reduce the dinos?


Would that be safe or would the toxins still somehow release in the tank when placed back?

Just exploring some options while I get prepared. Might set up a quick tank I have empty. 38g. Use some water from my clow tanks and top up with new salt mix. Transfer fish (if possible) over. I have lots of rocks. Would be difficult at the least to get the fish without removal. Which could pose a new issue on top of the Dino's.

Input please.

[Myka]

Originally Posted by paddyob

Here is a question....

What if I slowly clean a couple rocks OUTSIDE the tank first. Say 2-3 pieces a day. Scrub clean in salt water bucket. Or fresh? Then replace. Maybe to reduce the dinos?

How quickly is it growing back? It might grow back too quickly, but you could try.

Using a siphon to suck it out should work pretty well. If you use a small diameter hose (like airline or a sniff bigger) you will get out more of the dinos and less of the water so you should be able to suck it all out in one go. Turn all the pumps off while you're siphoning so you get minimal dinos into the water column.

If you could catch the fish you could put them in a Rubbermaid with airstone, heater, and some hiding places while you do the cleaning then run HEAVY carbon for a few hours, then put the fish back and do the black out.

[Werbo]

Originally Posted by paddyob

Here is a question....

What if I slowly clean a couple rocks OUTSIDE the tank first. Say 2-3 pieces a day. Scrub clean in salt water bucket. Or fresh? Then replace. Maybe to reduce the dinos?


Would that be safe or would the toxins still somehow release in the tank when placed back?

Just exploring some options while I get prepared. Might set up a quick tank I have empty. 38g. Use some water from my clow tanks and top up with new salt mix. Transfer fish (if possible) over. I have lots of rocks. Would be difficult at the least to get the fish without removal. Which could pose a new issue on top of the Dino's.

Input please.

I had Dino's for over a year and tried elevated ph and manual siphoning. The only thing that worked was removing the sand and removing each rock and scrubbing it in the sink.

Btw - my Dino's looked just like yours

[paddyob]

Originally Posted by Myka

How quickly is it growing back? It might grow back too quickly, but you could try.

Using a siphon to suck it out should work pretty well. If you use a small diameter hose (like airline or a sniff bigger) you will get out more of the dinos and less of the water so you should be able to suck it all out in one go. Turn all the pumps off while you're siphoning so you get minimal dinos into the water column.

If you could catch the fish you could put them in a Rubbermaid with airstone, heater, and some hiding places while you do the cleaning then run HEAVY carbon for a few hours, then put the fish back and do the black out.

The rocks are still cleanish where I cleaned on Friday.

[AquaPin]

Black out period makes a big dent, but also use with Fauna Marin Algae X and your problems should be gone, worked excellent for me.