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Old 03-05-2012, 04:07 AM
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OP has a Profilux hence my comment, for AI connection you just need an inexpensive cable not module. The other things are just options but with the AI starting at half the price makes buying such things easier and there purpose goes far beyond just matching a Radion.
as I said, its still 500 bones worth of add -ons you would need on top of the 400 bones for the AI.....radions are 825 smackers...... and how does a cable, vortech module and sim led go far beyond what a radion can do?...

speaking of cables....did I mention the wireless aspect of the radions?.....


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Radions will be obsolete in less than a year.
by that rational AIs are already obsolete.....not to worry, almost everything on the radions is modular and upgradeable to the latest and greatest
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:18 AM
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When it comes right down to it the new AI Vegas will be obsolete in a year also and Ecotech will be working on there next fixture soon if they are not already. LED lights are much like every electronics product as they are almost obsolete before they even hit the market!
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I agree that after playing around with LED colors the red and green are key to reduce the need to run the whites as high which drown out color. But I just don't see the value of paying twice as much for $50 worth of parts. It does however come down to what you have already for controllers and what you're willing to do or sacrifice. For straight out of the box the Radion has value for sure but each person will have to decide if that's the case for them personally.
I ended up getting a really good deal on mine so the Radions were a no brainer for me
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:24 AM
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as I said, its still 500 bones worth of add -ons you would need on top of the 400 bones for the AI.....radions are 825 smackers...... and how does a cable, vortech module and sim led go far beyond what a radion can do?...

speaking of cables....did I mention the wireless aspect of the radions?.....




by that rational AIs are already obsolete.....not to worry, almost everything on the radions is modular and upgradeable to the latest and greatest
Far beyond as in other reasons, vortech module allows everything to work seamlessly through one controller that has web access and eliminates the need for the individual controllers. So the reason for the vortech module is more than just integration with the light fixture. Also the OP has a 90 gallon so more than one fixture will be needed so even with the extra options still cheaper. And they're options, as in the buyer has the choice whether to add them or not, options are good.

As for the Radions being upgradeable, lets wait until they actually release a kit, more likley they'll just release a new fixture with 6 channels including some UV.
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:26 AM
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Ive been looking up the AI Vega and can't seem to find any hard specs on it just internet 'spec'ulation. This is worse than cell phones.
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Far beyond as in other reasons, vortech module allows everything to work seamlessly through one controller that has web access and eliminates the need for the individual controllers. So the reason for the vortech module is more than just integration with the light fixture. Also the OP has a 90 gallon so more than one fixture will be needed so even with the extra options still cheaper.

As for the Radions being upgradeable, lets wait until they actually release a kit, more likley they'll just release a new fixture with 6 channels including some UV.
Thats exactly what AI is doing and I bet Ecotech does the same. It puts alot more money in their pockets that way.
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:29 AM
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I've fell for future upgrades before, the upgrade costs 10% less than a completely new product! My profilux 2 needs $500 in upgrades and still can't run half the new stuff as only the 3 can
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Ive been looking up the AI Vega and can't seem to find any hard specs on it just internet 'spec'ulation. This is worse than cell phones.
They had it all set to be released last fall but its seems after the Radion came out it was held back. I bet AI now got something to equal or better the Radion
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Thats exactly what AI is doing and I bet Ecotech does the same. It puts alot more money in their pockets that way.
Totally, the upgrade feature seems more like a marketing thing. In retro spec unless you can upgrade more than just the LEDs so that your old fixture matches new fixtures there is little point.
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Thats exactly what AI is doing and I bet Ecotech does the same. It puts alot more money in their pockets that way.
...which has become a normal business plan for all manufacturers especially in electronics. I can accept that just want the best one available today
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