Have everything; need help setting up

[DisneyCoralReef]

Originally Posted by kien

By the way, you are missing salt

Nooo! I have salt. Let me go get a picture, also have a pic of the pump I bought a few months ago while I was waiting for the rest of the order to come through...one momento. Another thing I'll need help with. I have no idea what the standard rule is for mixing salt.

[lorenz0]

Originally Posted by DisneyCoralReef

Fiance's sister is a hair dresser-she would get you in trouble for going there! so no, my darling...it does not count!

hair dresser sister-inlaw, that clued me in. lol

but ya looks like you just need to get all your plumbing components together. btw nice sump, where did you get it from?

[DisneyCoralReef]

Originally Posted by lorenz0

btw nice sump, where did you get it from?

Got it from Big Al's on 32nd.

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by DisneyCoralReef

Nooo! I have salt. Let me go get a picture, also have a pic of the pump I bought a few months ago while I was waiting for the rest of the order to come through...one momento. Another thing I'll need help with. I have no idea what the standard rule is for mixing salt.

The general procedure although there's been some recent break throughs in Technology using canoe paddles us to mix minimum 24hrs in advance using a pump or powerhead and use a heater if needed to make your water tank temp for water changes, not important for the first fill.also lateryou may want to add additives like calcium to make your salt what your tank is but not important for your first fill . Always gave some ready made saltwater on hand in case you need it. Cheers on the new build it's the best part of your tank

welcome to canreef and goodluck on the new build Following along

[Delphinus]

Originally Posted by DisneyCoralReef

Another thing I'll need help with. I have no idea what the standard rule is for mixing salt.

Generally speaking it's about a cup of salt per 2 gallons. But, what you want to do is get a hydrometer if you don't already have one, because what you SHOULD do is add the salt and then check it after a few hours and add salt (or water) to get to your target specific gravity ("SG"). You'll quickly get a feel for how much salt it takes but you always measure your SG regardless. A refractometer is the easiest and most effective tool. A swing arm hydrometer is subject to huge amounts of error in readings (learned that the hard way) and no 2 swing arm hydrometers will tell you the same value anyhow .. a plumb-bob/glass hydrometer is good for reliability and ease of use and accuracy, but the glass is so thin you just look at them wrong and they break and it sucks to clean up all those little tiny lead ball bearings that fall out when they do. So, yeah, refractometer is the ONLY way to go. Plus, you'll feel all Star Trek and stuff looking into one to get your SG reading.

http://www.jlaquatics.com/product/t-...actometer.html

I ran a Rio Hyperflow for a few years. Nice pump, but when it goes, it's going to fail like this: the magnet will swell and the impeller will fail to turn. You can get a replacement impeller for about $20 less than a whole new pump. Stellar. And Big Al's is the only place left who sells these pumps. Don't sweat this purchase for now, it's a good pump when it runs right, and you'll get at least a year or two out of it in the meantime. Which, if you think that sounds not bad, consider that I have Mag drive pumps that have been running except for a few hours for cleaning, or power failures or whatever for .. I think the one driving my skimmer is about 8 years now (purchased in summer 2002. Used! - the impellers may not be original but the cost to replace those is nomimal). So yeah, I myself am done with Hyperflows, not impressed at all with them on their impeller replacement cost. I have the pump in my dead equipment pile because I can't bring myself to throw out a "perfectly good pump, it just needs a new impeller" but then the stupid impeller costs $150. FAIL!

Like I said don't sweat it for now, it will get you going and get you going good in the meantime.

[Delphinus]

Also you may want to consider an electronic thermometer, usually for around $20 or so, or you can just use a glass one floating in your sump, you'll get a more consistent reading. The stick-on-the-glass kind are a neat novelty but not really the best for a solid reading since they are on the outside of the glass so the tank temperature has to travel through the glass and also fight with the room air temperature and so on.

[Bloodasp]

Originally Posted by Delphinus

So yeah, I myself am done with Hyperflows, not impressed at all with them on their impeller replacement cost. I have the pump in my dead equipment pile because I can't bring myself to throw out a "perfectly good pump, it just needs a new impeller" but then the stupid impeller costs $150. FAIL!

The pump was actually $99.99, so the impeller would be much more expensive than buying a new one. (Sorry, I clicked on one of your pic which took me to yours webshots album where i saw a shot you took of your receipt.)

[globaldesigns]

What do you have for a skimmer?

What are your plans for the sump area? things like reactors, cheato, etc?

[DisneyCoralReef]

Originally Posted by Delphinus

Generally speaking it's about a cup of salt per 2 gallons. But, what you want to do is get a hydrometer if you don't already have one, because what you SHOULD do is add the salt and then check it after a few hours and add salt (or water) to get to your target specific gravity ("SG"). You'll quickly get a feel for how much salt it takes but you always measure your SG regardless. A refractometer is the easiest and most effective tool. A swing arm hydrometer is subject to huge amounts of error in readings (learned that the hard way) and no 2 swing arm hydrometers will tell you the same value anyhow .. a plumb-bob/glass hydrometer is good for reliability and ease of use and accuracy, but the glass is so thin you just look at them wrong and they break and it sucks to clean up all those little tiny lead ball bearings that fall out when they do. So, yeah, refractometer is the ONLY way to go. Plus, you'll feel all Star Trek and stuff looking into one to get your SG reading.

http://www.jlaquatics.com/product/t-...actometer.html

I ran a Rio Hyperflow for a few years. Nice pump, but when it goes, it's going to fail like this: the magnet will swell and the impeller will fail to turn. You can get a replacement impeller for about $20 less than a whole new pump. Stellar. And Big Al's is the only place left who sells these pumps. Don't sweat this purchase for now, it's a good pump when it runs right, and you'll get at least a year or two out of it in the meantime. Which, if you think that sounds not bad, consider that I have Mag drive pumps that have been running except for a few hours for cleaning, or power failures or whatever for .. I think the one driving my skimmer is about 8 years now (purchased in summer 2002. Used! - the impellers may not be original but the cost to replace those is nomimal). So yeah, I myself am done with Hyperflows, not impressed at all with them on their impeller replacement cost. I have the pump in my dead equipment pile because I can't bring myself to throw out a "perfectly good pump, it just needs a new impeller" but then the stupid impeller costs $150. FAIL!

Like I said don't sweat it for now, it will get you going and get you going good in the meantime.

Which pump do you recommend?

[Delphinus]

Originally Posted by Bloodasp

The pump was actually $99.99, so the impeller would be much more expensive than buying a new one. (Sorry, I clicked on one of your pic which took me to yours webshots album where i saw a shot you took of your receipt.)

I guess I should have mentioned that mine was the 32HF. It's been a while since I checked into this and it looks like prices have come down somewhat. Now the listed price online for the pump is now $155 and the impeller $99 for the 32. They only list replacement impellers for the 20 ($89), 26, and 32 (both $99). Maybe they don't bother selling for the smaller versions since it looks like it would be equivalent to a whole new pump.

As to what pump I recommend "per se" is a difficult question to answer, each pump will have pros/cons and some will better suit someone to a task over others - it's a little like Ford vs Chevy or something.

In general Mag drives have been dependable workhorses for me, but they are not the quietest nor the least-power draw for the amount of flow. But dependable, and easy to service (ie., can replace the impeller housing if need be, or the impeller itself, for reasonable cost).

Eheims tend to be the best blend of quiet, efficiency at power draw and volume output. But also tend to be the most expensive to buy, so they get you one way or the other.

I'm running a Hydor Seltz as a sump return on one tank and I like the pump. Smaller than the equivalent Mag drive, quieter, and less energy used. For a while there they were really popular and easy to find but nowadays they seem harder to find someone who sells them.

It's not like you should regret the purchase of the Rio Hyperflow. It is a good pump. I just found the longevity factor with it wasn't there though compared to others. If, a year or two from now you find that it's not starting for you, take it apart and check the magnet. If it's a perfect cylinder then it's still fine but if it has started to swell and is more egg shaped then you know that it's done at that point.