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Old 07-10-2007, 06:08 AM
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I second the phosban reactor..i too tried everything,better husbandry,snails,urchins,rabbit and tang.Was fighting a losing battle.Bought a reactor and three weeks later, gone..nothing i now feed nori to the tang and rabbitfish
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Lawnmower blenny doesn't eat filamentous algae, what they eat is film algae. Actually some don't adapt to prepared foods very well and tend to starve out.

The green urchin is not very large. It's about 1.5" - 2". We're not talking diadema type urchins, indeed, too big for your tank. It looks like a blue tuxedo urchin but is green.

Abalones are awesome. Hardy, not too demanding. Here's a link: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/abalones.htm

I do feed nori to my tank and suspect that the abalone probably gets some of that at night. Also sometimes I put in some chaeto for the rabbitfish and I think he also cleans up whatever the rabbit doesn't do in.
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Old 07-10-2007, 06:55 AM
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Is this a bryopsis algae? I have been pulling my hair out with that stuff for ages and have recently tried the magnesium treatment. Sorry I can't find the link but a search on this site should give the link to the one on reef central.

I am 2 weeks into it and almost 100% algae free. I had a blenny pass away on me earlier this week but I don't know if the magnesium had anything to do with it. I've been adding it much slower than everyone else did (haven't even hit target levels yet) and my other fish are ok so I'm hesitant to blame magnesium for his death. I did have a small ammonia spike when the algae started dying off as I think the algae was sucking up a lot of pure ammonia and just died too quickly. Otherwise no negative effects.

Another tactic would be to try 3 days of darkness. Again there's a thread on RC and I believe it was in reef keeping magazine a month or two to ago as well so digging it up shouldn't be too hard. People seem to have had good results with that.
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I know what the Mg treatment is. I don't think its bryopsis, well at least not the larger portion of the algae. I'm still trying to raise my Mg levels, anyways because I feel they are a bit on the low side.

I haven't yet tried the darkness method yet, but maybe I will try it out.

Delphinius,

What does the urchin eat after its devoured all the GHA in my tank? Did you ever have problems with them picking up or moving too much around? I'm worried that it will devistate my SPS field, and hurt my clams.

I'm going to skip on the lawnmore blennie. I've never had one before so I thought I might as well ask.

I'm going to try and source out an abalone, and then go from there.

For those who have suggested a phosban reactor, I don't have the room for one. I already have a phosban reactor running as a kalk. reactor in my top off bucket. How has everyone else plumbed a reactor into their system? Photos if you have them.

So for now I'm going to try and do the following:
- Add more clean up crew, more snails
- Try a few days of complete darkness
- Look into an abalone & or an urchin
- Try to see if I could add on a phosban reactor.

Any other suggestions?
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Old 07-10-2007, 03:35 PM
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Regardless of what critters you use to help control to outbreak, you still need to address the source or the problem. I agree with you that the tap water caused the problems by probably adding phosphates to the system.

Have you tested for phosphates? Do you use phosphate remover?

Even if the phosphate readings are 0 they still may be present since hair algae is very efficient at using it. Also remember that as the hair algae dies it puts the phosphates back into the water column which is then available to help colonize other areas of your tank. If you currently don't use phosphate remover, you may want to consider doing so. I know you don't have room for a phosban reactor but you may have room to put a bag of phosphate remover in.

I'm just getting over a bad outbreak of hair algae but mine was caused by an old bulb (you might want to check this as well). When I replaced the bulb the problem didn't go away, but as soon as I started using phosphate remover the algae began to subside.
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Hi there,

I battled hair algae for a couple of years trying all of the things you have tried, even an abalone, with little success. The phosban slowed things down, as did all of the other things, but what cleaned out my tank almost completely was a tuxedo urchin. Best $15 I ever spent. In a matter of 2 months, it is almost completely gone. It only took about 2 weeks to see most of it gone, now it slowly nibbles at the rest. It was fun watching it rip the algae right off the rocks and carry it around for a while! And unlike slugs, when an urchin dies, it doesn't take out part of your system with it, like the one I tried. If you are worried about feeding it after all the algae is gone, just pick up some Ocean Nutrition Algae Sheets. They love them!
Good luck with whatever choice you make in the battle.
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Okguy,

I've already changed out my bulbs. I do run a phosphate remover in a filter media bag just below the return pipe.

The difference between running it in a filter bag, and running a reactor is that I have to find how to push most, if not all, of my water through the reactor. If you have a suggestion for how to add in or run a reactor in a small space, please let me know.

Ponokareefer,

Did you ever have problems with your urchin knocking stuff over, or causing damage?
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Second the Tuxedo. It eats the soft algae and doesn't strip the Coraline like my short spine does.

Best thing I ever did for algae in my tank was set up an algae refugium with Chaeto. All the nasties grow in the refugium due to the more favourable light spectrum and not in the display.

You can also blast the patches with hot RO/DI water. It will die overnight. Just be careful around your corals, and don't do too much at once in a small tank.
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My urchin does occasionally pick up rubble, but hasn't moved any larger items, and my rock structure is not glued together. I do glue down my frags though, and it hasn't moved any of them. It has taken one of my clips off the glass that held the algae strip and hid it under a rock on me. I don't have clams, but do have anemones, frogspawn, blastomoussa, an open brain and branching hammer corals, and it doesn't bother any of them. My frogspawn, brain and hammer's are not glued down, and it doesn't move them. It has carried a couple of snails around and some crabs, but put them down after a while. It did clean a little coraline algae off my conch, but didn't move it.
I also set up a refugium with chaeto, and the algae was slowly dwindling, but the urchin sped things up for me. I think that I had corrected the problems that led to the algae, but just couldn't get rid of what was there. At least not fast enough for my liking.
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I already have a refugium set up, and it doesn't seem to be doing much. My cheato is growing at what I would call normal pace.

I can't blast anything with hot RO/DI as my tank is just too small and I have too many corals. It would for sure kill something.

Okguy,

I have tested for phosphates, but it reads 0. Obviously because there is still growth in the tank there are still phosphates in the system. At this point in time I'm starting to think testing for phosphates is a waste of my time. I know I have them, as they are contributing to the algae growth, yet all tests show that there is 0.
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