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Old 09-25-2005, 06:20 AM
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Default sump help needed for newbie....

Feel free to move this to the newbie section if needed...

Here's a picture of my current overflow elbow in the tank....notice the reflection point.....



Using a Mag12 in a 15 gallon sump. The noise in the overflow has been lessened by inserting some baffling, but the noise in the pipe leading to the sump is a constant draining noise.

Set up is such: water enters 3" overflow, goes through reducer and elbow and through glass, through 2" elbow and 2" vertical pipe, another 2" elbow and 2" horizontal pipe to bring it under the stand, another 2" elbow and 2" vertical pipe (slight slant) to bring it into the sump.

Looking at the HOfer and Stockman designs, but do they only reduce noise on the overflow, when it is the standpipe that seems to be noisiest?
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Old 09-25-2005, 01:22 PM
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do a search an the durso method
http://www.aurx.net/saltwater/durso.html
This method is suppoese to be quite good.
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Old 09-25-2005, 04:01 PM
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I don't think a durso would work with my setup? I don't a have a built in overflow, rather a hole drilled in the side of the tank, and an elbow running through the glass.
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Old 09-25-2005, 04:39 PM
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bulid an overflow box for it Dunl
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Old 09-25-2005, 06:27 PM
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Just wondering why? Could the tank not be fixed somehow the way it is right now?
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Old 09-25-2005, 06:34 PM
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Did the former owner of the tank tell you how he had it setup?

The way you've got it... I think the only way is to pump a ball valve on the drain end and adjust it to the point where the flushing noise goes away. Problem is, with that kind of setup, all it'll take is a snail to block the drain and your tank will flood.

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Old 09-25-2005, 06:49 PM
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Did the former owner of the tank tell you how he had it setup?
Not yet. It was Danny's, but I haven't seen him online this weekend yet.

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The way you've got it... I think the only way is to pump a ball valve on the drain end and adjust it to the point where the flushing noise goes away. Problem is, with that kind of setup, all it'll take is a snail to block the drain and your tank will flood.
I was thinking of that too, but came to the same conclusion. I guess I could make a Hofer Gurgle Buster to fit the 3" fitting inside the tank, but then would that cut down the noise in the vertical piping?

Another idea I had was to put a reduce on the end in the sump, so that the pipe would fill instead of water sloshing around it.....the problem with that would be that if it is reduced enough to fill, that means the water being pumped in would be greater, eventually creating a flood.
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Old 09-25-2005, 07:23 PM
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The Hofer Gurgle buster works wonders, but you'd have to build a small overflow to put it in as it would suck stuff from your tank into the drain.

I think your only safe and quiet option is to add an overflow box, something similar to this: http://www.barraquatic.com/overflows.php
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Old 09-25-2005, 07:38 PM
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The bigger problem is the noise from the standpipe,not the overflow.
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Noise as in vibrational noise or noise as in bubbles being sucked into the pipe? You could put a tee on the outside just after the bulkhead (rather than an elbow like you said you had a couple posts up) with a PVC cap on one side. Drill a hole in the cap (start small, go larger as needed) until you get just the right amout of air in the pipe. That should help you cut down some of the noise. It would be like setting up a half-external durso.
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