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Old 01-23-2011, 05:37 AM
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Hi guys,
Been doing some research on starting a fowlr in the fall (a long way off, but will likely be moving twice by September and wont have funds due to school). I have some questions that I hope you can help with, as this would be my first SW tank.

-size of tank? I was thinking getting a 55 gallon at least, new, and then getting my accessories used if possible. Got a couple tanks off of Kijiji and haven't found one that doesnt have some pretty obvious scratches. This tank size ok for a beginner? Would like to build around a pair of Clowns.

- does used live rock come with all the "goodies" that you'd get from the LFS?

- is a sump necessary? I'd be lying if I said that I was overly handy, and don't know much about plumbing. Is there a link that goes very basic on setting up a sump (including pumps and such?). Does the tank have to be drilled for a sump to work?

- is RO / DO water necessary for a fowlr? Have read opposing opinions, I know Cakgary has some very good drinking water, but could understand the other stuff. If RO is needed what's the cheapest source?


Thanks again guys, have a fish tank addiction creeping up on me
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Old 01-23-2011, 06:47 AM
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-first off, I think that a 55 gallon would be perfectly fine. ( in my opinion, but its good to have a few perspectives )

-getting live rock from the LFS is usually more reliable, so if your getting it secondhand I would strongly suggest to inspect it closely.

-I would recomend a sump im not good with the plumbing part either, but here's a link :
http://saltaquarium.about.com/od/sum...Box_Setups.htm

-google is also good for info on sumps

-in my opinion RO isnt needed, and I just use declorinated tap water, but its your tank, so do what you think is nessesary

- Hope this helped, and good luck
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Old 01-26-2011, 02:14 AM
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A lot of what you are asking revolves around the fish that you want. For clowns 55 is way more than you need (but doesn't hurt). So I would narrow down your list a little more before you jump into a tank.

Sump is a good idea because with more water volume the more stable the system will be and less stressful on your inhabitants. Also cleans up your display tank with less equipment. But if you are choosing "beginner" fish that are more hardy then just paying close attention to water evaporation, water parameters and regular water changes will be sufficiant to eliminate a sump. Tank doesn't need to be drilled as you can buy overflow boxes, but its nice to have a drilled tank...

For fish only declorinated water is fine. RO/DI water won't hurt, at the very least algea will be reduced. If you find algea problems during spring run off then just get grocery store RO/DI water for those few months.

If you are considering clownfish, an anenome is not required. If you want one do your research, some have very slim survival rates. Better lighting will be required aswell. Personally clowns and anenomes go hand in hand for me
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Thanks for help guys, I've read a bunch more on Sumps and it does seem appealing, especially for a larger tank. And from what i can tell it should be cheaper then buying a good quality Canister (like an Eheim) if i start with an aquarium that i could get cheap.

Im gonna build around the clowns as they're the most appealing for me (what can i say, haha)

Otherwise I might go with a Biocube and see what i can do with it, definitely want Clowns

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Old 01-26-2011, 03:47 AM
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Bio cube 29 would be awesome for a pair of clowns. Like I said you need to know how many other fish you would like as a 29G could pretty much be the entire "territory" of the clowns.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:08 AM
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Not sure what else I'd want, haven't got that far along yet! Seems like the Biocubes are a reasonable price considering I'd spend probably at least as much if not more just for a tank. Might go run to Big ALS and see their prices tomorrow.
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