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Old 01-29-2009, 09:02 PM
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Default Reef - Ich - Organicure - Fallow Tank - Aaaaargh ! ? ! ? ! ?

After running my reef for a year without any signs of ich, I did a little bit of aquascaping & disturbed the sand bed. I always QT everything before it goes in my tank. Well, everything except for the LR which I've picked up from 5 fellow reefers & 2 different LFS.

Anyway a few hours after I finished, my fish got ich

I removed everyone & put them in my QT tank & started treating it with some Organicure & a week or so later signs of ich are virtually gone from the fish.

How long do I need to leave my reef tank fallow for to make sure the Ich dies off completely? I've read & heard anything from 6 to 12 weeks.

Not a problem normally but I don't really want to keep butterfly fish in a 10g QT tank for 12 weeks!

I have set up a 15g for my frogfish but I'm guessing that has ich too as the LR & sand was from my reef.

Organicure says it's safe for fish, crabs & shrimp. Should I risk using it in my reef or in my frogfish tank (contains some LPS, gorgs & clams)?

It also says it contains 1.25% copper & 17% formaldehyde, so it'll probably kill my corals, clams, pods, worms, starfish etc. ?

Oh & to anyone running UV. This is a good example of it being useless against ich that's not already in the water column.

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Old 01-29-2009, 09:09 PM
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I would not use a product containing formaldehyde or copper in a reef tank.
I would observe but not treat the frogfish.
Can you get garlic extract into its food? If so, do so.
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Old 01-29-2009, 09:16 PM
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I would observe but not treat the frogfish..
So don't treat even if he starts showing signs of Ich?

I could get some garlic extreme into his feeder shrimp tank & also soak the feeder shrimp food in garlic too.

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Old 01-29-2009, 09:47 PM
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So don't treat even if he starts showing signs of Ich?

I could get some garlic extreme into his feeder shrimp tank & also soak the feeder shrimp food in garlic too.

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Yes, don't treat. There are some fish like mandarins (and I believe frogfish) that don't have typical scale exterior and meds harm them.
Use garlic extract whether you see the ich or not and add selcon if you can as well.
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Yes, don't treat. There are some fish like mandarins (and I believe frogfish) that don't have typical scale exterior and meds harm them.
Use garlic extract whether you see the ich or not and add selcon if you can as well.
I'll enhance his food & fingers crossed he'll not succumb to ich.

Meanwhile, how long shall I leave my reef fish free?

12 weeks seems a lot to bare. In that scenario I might just break it down, sanitise everything, cook the rock for a few months & get rid of the rest.

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Old 01-30-2009, 01:33 AM
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Garlic is a waste of time. Observed recoveries based on its use are annecdotal at best. Allicin, the active enzyme in garlic, is wildly unstable and will rapidly decompose once formed.

Stick with known macrophage stimulants such as beta glucans and lipopolysaccharides.

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